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znpy 7 hours ago

> I got accused of bias because apparently there's many more Israeli startups working on medical research, green technology and world peace.

Meddling with foreign affairs is a well established practice, and that's just life.

Israeli do that, North Koreans do that, Russians do that, Americans do that (think former CIA/FBI people, think Palantir etc).

Highlighting that specific nation (Israel) for those practices while ignoring all other positive contributions (dumb example since we're on HN: Graviton processors came from Annapurna labs, an israeli company, and they gave the definitive push for ARM in the datacenter by proving it's effectively feasible and cost-effective) is borderline antisemitic.

So yeah, you got called out and rightfully so (and you should really review your biases).

nick_ 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are North Korea and Russia "allies" of the US?

yowo 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Maybe US OFAC has missed one particular state

trimethylpurine 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is the UK a US ally? Is Japan?

If you only focus on one country for some strange reason that you can't explain, people are going to notice. That shouldn't surprise you.

nick_ 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Does the UK or Japan engage in election meddling in the US?

graemep 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Not recently, but there are things like this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50752217 and there have been claims the UK interfered in American politics in about 1940 to get US support in WW2.

Mikhail_Edoshin 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Russians do not do that. It is contrary to our culture.

There was a lord (knyaz) in old times who even warned enemies that he is going to attack them. Of course it is not as advantageous as a covert approach. But it is very Russian.

When you hear otherwise it is those other entities targeting you, that's all.

blks 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Russia’s involvement with foreign assets is pretty well-documented. Maybe not on a hysterical level where someone believes Russian government stole elections in USA, but they definitely meddled and continue to meddle in affairs of neighbouring countries and EU, both through information campaigns and via direct actions and influence.

Talking about stuff from early Middle Ages (князи), it has zero relevance to modern culture. Russia is anything but isolationist as it should be clear since 2014/2022.

orbital-decay 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Games three-letter agencies play are the same everywhere and have zero relation to the culture. 2016 meddling did happen of course. It was also negligible and led to a huge overreaction, extremely similar to the US meddling in Russian elections in 1996 where Clinton admin indirectly prevented Nemtsov from running by supporting unpopular Yeltsin (and NGOs did a ton of "work" which barely affected anything, the main reason Yeltsin won was Filatov running the campaign, oversized spending and collusion with the media aka Xerox affair, and the "admin resource" he had).

moogly 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There are three options:

1. Israel is doing this in an outsized way compared to everyone else

2. Israel is extremely poor at doing it because it keeps getting caught

3. All the reporting is controlled by the antisemitic media conglomerates ruled by a shadowy council funded by Qatari money

I expect you to deny 1, 2 is an impossibility to you, 3 is the most likely I'd hear even though it's highly reminiscent of something...

Looking forward to option 4. I hope it's something more original than shouting "blood libel!".

HappyPanacea 5 hours ago | parent [-]

False trichotomy 4. Small amount of people make sure to look and echo everything that paint Israel in bad light and this work, we know this work because this entire post is about a company (small amount of people) influencing New York and Scotland votes.

Also it is entirely possible all 1+2+4 hold

crote 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's just option 3.

moogly 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seeing as billions upon billions of dollars goes into Israel's lobbying operations (including countless more from non-affiliated but pro-Israeli groups), that must be the least successful industry ever to be outclassed by a small number of random guys online.