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tokioyoyo 9 hours ago

AI is not, and was not the reason why the average user moved away from Firefox.

AI is however a potential avenue for raising money.

red_admiral 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, I agree - firefox was losing market share long before AI was a thing.

I meant to use that as a recent example of the kind of decisions that Mozilla leadership repeatedly makes, that don't match up what their users want.

dspillett 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> AI is however a potential avenue for raising money.

How? By selling the position of preferred model? They can do that without implementing it in a way that means people who don't want it at all have to jump through hoops to opt-out.

Being able to turn AI summaries and such off by default was the final reason I started paying for Kagi. I know they use ML in the background no matter what, but as long as I get links to resources relevant to my search, that I can read/judge/summerise as needed, first and foremost, how they produce that list is not the issue.

tokioyoyo 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

You are not the target audience, that’s pretty much it. You can be very against AI, try to turn it off on Kagi, avoid Google AI summaries, discard ChatGPT/Claude, but billions of people still use them. At this point it has been argued so much that it’s kinda pointless.

People seem to enjoy to be told stuff and don’t really care about sources if the said content is somewhat correct.