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US still has the second amendment and the most guns per person of any country in the world (more than 10x the average), yet I don't see anybody "fight back against the benefactors"

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YeahThisIsMe 11 hours ago | parent [-]

The people who are really into guns and the second amendment are somehow on the side of their oppressors.

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Yiin 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

few years ago they weren't

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ffsm8 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ffs, Trump is not an oppressor. You're not helping by pointlessly exaggerating things, you'll only derail the discussion.

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wolvoleo 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah if you're straight and white he's not

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ffsm8 6 hours ago | parent [-]

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arcatech 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> You either have lost touch with reality so far to be unable to understand what "oppressed" means or you're just parotting someone else who suffers from that affliction.

This 100% applies to you. If you can’t see ICE actions as oppressive, you’ve definitely lost touch with reality.

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ffsm8 2 hours ago | parent [-]

ICE is just enforcing law. Also they're enforcing the law regardless of the skim color. There are plenty of white people which have been removed from the USA by ICE, consequently invalidating the previous thesis of it being about white/straight people.

Complete brainrot...

	▲	arcatech an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> ICE is just enforcing law. "This changed in June 2025, just weeks after White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, reportedly frustrated with the slow increase in ICE arrests, called the head of every ICE Field Office into a room in Washington, DC and ordered them to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens.” Following this meeting, the Trump administration launched its first splashy raid of an American city, sending hundreds of agents into Los Angeles and sparking fiery confrontations between protestors and federal agents." [0] That's what you're talking about when you say "just enforcing the law"? > Also they're enforcing the law regardless of the skim color. "Publicly available ICE and research datasets show clear shifts in who is being arrested and detained—large growth in interior arrests and detention of people without U.S. criminal convictions and major variation across states—but they do not provide a consistent, complete public breakdown of ICE arrests and detention by race and nationality at the county level, so any precise county-level racial or national origin tallies are not available from the cited public sources." [1] So how do you know that? Are you just guessing? You're accusing me of the exact thing you're doing. Honestly it sounds to me like you're the one suffering from some serious brainrot. [0]: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/ice-arrest-s... [1]: https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/ice-arrests-detenti...

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tdeck 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US has plenty of guns. The idea that there aren't sufficient guns for some kind of armed resistance is absurd. The issue is cultural - we'd apparently rather fire them off in schools and malls and movie theaters.

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hurtigioll 11 hours ago | parent [-]

how useful will those guns be against an army of AI driven drones

just look at what's going on in Ukraine right now

	▲	boppo1 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		More than you'd think but it'd get unbelievably ugly. Reign of terror would look like a cakewalk.

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dudefeliciano 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> D takes away guns from the population so they can't effectively fight back against the benefactors

Please remind us when Democrats have "taken away guns", and while you're at it when were those small arms last used to fight back against a tyrannical government?

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graemep 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not in the US, and not addressing whether the governments controlled were tyrannical or not (in many cases the rebels were definitely bad) but there are lots of wars around the world that were started by people with small arms and home made bombs that built up into full scale wars.

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rustcleaner 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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dudefeliciano 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Neither of those are "taking away your guns" and you forgot to answer my second question. Is concealed carry essential to overthrow a tyrannical government?

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rustcleaner 11 hours ago | parent [-]

It raises the risks for the enforcers taking a paycheck to oppress the [subset of the] population. Bullies think twice when they can be punched square in the face.

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dudefeliciano 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Riiiiight, it doesn't just make the bully invest billions in military grade weapons to be used against civilians. Soon you'll have superdrones with superguns patrolling the US and you will still be clinging to your right to carry a musket.

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boppo1 10 hours ago | parent [-]

2A people don't want the right to carry a musket, they want the right to those same superdrones. You are framing their desires in bad faith.

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dudefeliciano 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Taking that argument to absurd levels we should only sit and wait for the first school nuking then.

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yakshaving_jgt 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

You're right they don't want to carry a musket, but that's because muskets are not sexy. They don't want superdrones either, because superdrones are not sexy.

2A people just like guns. Guns, culturally, are sexy.

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arvid-lind 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think it's sexy, though I wish people would stop using this word for things like... war machines. Gun culture is just a subculture in the US, and I agree weaponized drones aren't 1:1 with guns to gun nuts.

	▲	yakshaving_jgt 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don’t think they’re sexy either.