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Aurornis 5 hours ago

> Listen - that's the sound of millions of companies and users doubling down on Chinese models.

They’re falling back to Opus 4.8. Most people weren’t using Fable for everything anyway because it’s so expensive.

None of open weights models are even at Opus 4.8 levels. If someone was using Fable they don’t have any second best alternative outside of Anthropic.

itopaloglu83 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A sample of one, but I was getting more stuff done despite Fable uses tokens twice as fast as Opus, because it understood the goals so well and worked to achieve them.

hodgehog11 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same experience. Wouldn't waste my tokens on easy stuff for it. It blasted through some of my toughest problems and produced some truly great code.

2001zhaozhao 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> more stuff done

More stuff done per dollar or more stuff done for more dollars? Seems to be an important distinction

itopaloglu83 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Given the same usage limits, I was able to get more stuff done and not even hit the usage limits, because I wasn't working on constantly fixing what Opus was trying to do, Fable just understands the task correctly and works great with the given context.

pshc 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same, I was actually having interesting thought experiments with Fable.

malshe 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I even upgraded my Max plan because Fable was doing so well.

consumer451 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Same here, now n=2.

dbish 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep. I love open source but there isn’t a model that comes close still to the closed source options like Opus 4.8 and that’s obvious from most people I see across the software industry as well. There are at least another few models after Opus from OpenAI and Anthropic most would go down the list using before any of the Chinese models at this point.

sixothree 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I could really use something that can just refactor a few classes and create DTOs from entities.

cube00 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Most people weren’t using Fable for everything anyway because it’s so expensive.

Or they were getting silently rerouted and couldn't realise they weren't using Fable

dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Opus 4.8 has taken such a beating over the last couple of days since the release of fable, videos online of people referring to it like the “redheaded stepchild” (is there a better way of saying this, this sounds racist) basically at this point, everyone is going to be seriously disappointed to fall back to that.

nozzlegear 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> is there a better way of saying this, this sounds racist

It's not racist or even politically incorrect in the US, it's a common saying.

dyauspitr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, I am aware. Kind of paints redheads as unwanted though. Seems hurtful.

nozzlegear 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, not sure where the phrase originated but it does sound bad when you put some thought into it. My sister is a redhead and people loved to make fun of her growing up, telling her there's no way two parents with brown hair could have a kid with red hair, so the mailman (who also had red hair) was obviously her dad.

loeg 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If someone was using Fable they don’t have any second best alternative outside of Anthropic.

GPT-5.5 isn't awful.