If you start with a fire hose of literal sewage and install a series of filters culminating in a reverse osmosis step that pours clean drinking water out, the product is not shit even if the original input was.

I don’t believe that you can’t understand the distinction between “at one point this was garbage” and “at the present time this is still garbage”. You’re clearly smarter than that.

I’m saying the distinction doesn’t matter. This is what NNs proved. All matter can become semi intelligent.