The thing is a lot of people might be right at the tipping point of buying an EV and then some news like this comes out and it pushes them over the line.

I feel EVs at this moment are right at the level of “I’m gonna buy a new car, but maybe I’ll wait for the one after before I jump into an EV”. Better batteries (solid state), better charging speeds and more fast charger availability seem to have a large group of people waiting.

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seanmcdirmid a day ago | parent | next [-]

It’s not a bad idea. I bought in 2022 and the range of newer EVs is already a lot more than mine. But I really enjoy my car and don’t have much pressure to take so many roadtrips.

What I can’t see doing is buying a new ICE now. If you just want something to hold you over a few years, buy used or lease.

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cicko a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That makes no sense to me. I've had an EV for five years and right now the infrastructure is fantastic in comparison. There are chargers everywhere, they're fast enough, and the prices are reasonable. The batteries are also quite large. I see absolutely no reason to buy an IC car any more. Many people have solar panels installed, making the commute practically free.

	▲	NoLinkToMe 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think at the upper range, and for Teslas, this is true. But for the rest, not quite yet. Suppose you buy an entry-level Renault 5, the WLTP range is 310km. In mild conditions you typically get 85-90% of that, enough for the majority of people. But in winter you get 65% of that, so 195km, on a new battery. And after 5 years that may be 165km in winter, and that's just not great. With home-charging that still is enough for most requirements, but you are more restricted for longer trips and have to charge diligently. I live in an apartment so I wouldn't be home-charging daily, there'd be plenty of times I'd want to park my car at the first available spot in my area at 55% charge and use it the next day, which is even more restrictive. For the entry-level Tesla the WLTP range is 530km or 70% more. There the problem is much less. And for home-chargers, it's also a no-brainer usually, especially with home solar. But for an apartment-dweller who just needs an entry-level car, it's still a toss-up between a new EV like a renault 5 for 30k, or just a Toyota Corolla Hybrid that gets great mileage, low maintenance and can be had new for 30k or a few years old for 20k. Unfortunately, I refuse to buy a Tesla due to Musk's politics.

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jimnotgym a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Renault seems to have made a sensibly priced range with some classic styles too. Familiar cars but with EV, rather than early adopter cars like the Nissan Leaf or weird tech bro cars.

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Haven880 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Ghosn was right. Japanese did him dirty and Nissan collapsed as a result.

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vrganj a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The Renault 5 is selling like crazy.

Makes sense why, reasonable price, good design, made in Europe EV.

It's what a lot of people have been waiting for.

	▲	deeringc a day ago \| parent [-]
		You're not wrong - I see about 10 of these a day driving around. And that's a car model that is only about a year old. It's selling like hot cakes.