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| ▲ | usrnm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Trump was elected. Twice. It was not a fluke, not a once in a lifetime event, he's a symptom of wider processes happening in the US. The world has changed and the old order is not coming back | | |
| ▲ | captainbland 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Trump is one thing but the overall dynamic of similar politicians gaining footholds across the world is what worries me. If everyone is X nation first in the same way, you lose the ability to negotiate with compromises, people want to start expanding their borders and that just escalates into war. We're already seeing that in a few cases but it just stands to get worse if this carries on. | |
| ▲ | QuesnayJr 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Half the countries in Europe has their own Trump-equivalent politician heading one of the largest parties, and yet Europeans are imagining it's something happening "in the US" while they sleepwalk into disaster. | | |
| ▲ | pjc50 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, and: these are the same picture. They're all promoted by Russian-backed influencers on US-owned social media, or indigenous US racists. We've got Elon inciting race riots in Belfast now; several people left homeless after they were firebombed out. A lot of this was laundered through Hungary: https://www.politico.eu/article/hungary-viktor-orban-favorit... ; hopefully some of those involved can be jailed by the incoming administration for misusing government funds. |
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| ▲ | graemep 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Does it matter who is president? The US was spying on European leaders before Trump's first term: "According to the investigation, which covered the period from 2012 to 2014, the NSA used Danish information cables to spy on senior officials in Sweden, Norway, France and Germany, including former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and former German opposition leader Peer Steinbrück." https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie... |
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