Cold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those.

I think there's something social going on.

rwyinuse 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those consume nowhere near as much electricity as data centers.

Of course electricity wouldn't be such a problem if US government chose to invest in cheap, sustainable energy sources and upgrade its grid. China is building solar and nuclear like crazy, and that gives them a massive advantage here.

Hopefully in future elections Americans choose a candidate and party that isn't bought by the fossil fuel lobby.

	▲	xp84 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No, we will only get to pick between “bought by fossil fuel lobby,” and, “degrowth moron” - case in point Newsom, a serious presidential candidate who is killing off our refineries while not doing enough to make EVs work for common people. You can say that’s a hard problem and takes a ton of time and work, but a responsible politician would not hurt the high percentage of Californians who can’t afford an EV or can’t charge it, by driving out refineries. And Newsom also doesn’t support nuclear, while our electricity prices are already over double most other states. The Democratic Party’s modern strategy about energy seems to be to just throw wrenches into the existing fossil fuel world (because that’s the easy part) and then wag the finger at consumers when they complain. “Well, you gross polluter, you should have just bought a $40,000 EV and a $700,000 house to put $25,000 solar panels on!” To be clear, I’d love to vote for a Democrat who had a real energy policy that replaced dirty energy with clean, and was able to get tons of people into EVs where practical.

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genewitch 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

industrial greenhouses make noise? I live near Forest Hill, LA, which is where tons of nurseries set up, dozens and dozens. they all have greenhouses. No noise. I bet their electrical connections don't raise prices of local residents, either.

So is it the water? I don't know where i sit on the water argument. Equinix near LAX had chillers, i guess, but really it's just massive HVAC. chillers don't work everywhere (my understanding). I don't remember plumes of humidity coming off the facility, either. I also don't remember being able to hear it from outside the building, or even in the foyer before you went through the mancatchers.

	▲	jnewton_dev 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		In my experience this really depends on the scale you're operating at. What works for a side project falls apart at production scale.