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freakynit 2 hours ago

As much as I absolutely love Mimo V2.5 Pro (it's a genuinely good model), I absolutely hate the way they calculate usage in their token plan.

For example: For a super small task in a small project that should not be consuming more than 500K total tokens after all tool calls included, their shown usage shot up to 152 million tokens.

But, when I scroll down on the same page, a table shows usage as 3 million tokens, out of which 2.5 million were cached.

This is such a huge conflict on the very same page. The bad thing is that the usage progress bar is shown against that 150 million token usage, not against that 3 million one.

This has been in discussions for at least past 3 months on reddit as well, and was precisely the reason I subscribed to their lowest tier, and for a single month only.

Update: their own harness, mimocode, shows total token usage as just 63.1K. We now have 3 entirely different values, differing in 3 orders of magnitude.

Update 2: So, I did the exact same task this time using DS4Pro, and total token usage was just 101K (as shown by opencode).

microbass an hour ago | parent [-]

It's very confusing. They have tokens for their API and credits for their "token plan".

freakynit an hour ago | parent [-]

Even worse... they use both terms on the same page in dashboard.

"""

Credits 4,100,000,000 Credits

Total Token Consumption

"""

freakynit 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ooooo... I now realize the trick. It's a mental play... give 1000x of "credits" but charge in same old tokens.