| ▲ | epistasis 3 hours ago |
| Yes, and this poor attitude of "safety" meaning "safe for the driver" extends to all sorts of terrible safety regulations. 41% of vehicle deaths are people not even in a car[1]. Yet car safety regulation is heavily focused on the 59% that are, nothing to regulate the ridiculous gender-affirming hood heights or aftermarket lifts that turn a survivable collision into a deadly collision. [1] https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/... Table 1, paragraph above |
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| ▲ | logancbrown 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It doesn't help your case when you state inflammatory remarks like "gender-affirming hood heights". This isn't reddit. The data even points to the fact that, by total vehicles vs vehicles that cause pedestrian deaths, regular passenger cars cause 19.9 pedestrian deaths per 1MM registered vehicles while trucks, as and entire category, cause 19.2 pedestrians deaths per 1MM registered vehicles. "nothing to regulate" is also an exaggeration. Many states to regulate aftermarket lifts. 6" lifts are typically the maximum legally allowed limit for trucks like the F150. You only see them higher because there is no enforcement of the rule. |
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| ▲ | tristor 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > You only see them higher because there is no enforcement of the rule. Unenforced rules effectively don't exist. Selectively enforced rules are a focal point for discrimination and corruption. I don't think you're making the argument you think you are. | | |
| ▲ | logancbrown 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you are so knowledgeable, then what argument am I making? | | |
| ▲ | jasonlotito 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It doesn't help your case when you state inflammatory comments like "If you are so knowledgeable, then what argument am I making?". This isn't reddit. | | |
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| ▲ | jader201 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Yet all car safety regulation on the 59% that are I don’t think you meant literally “all”, but one that comes to mind that definitely is intended for pedestrian safety is around requiring that EVs make audible noises when they’re moving at slow speeds (the fake humming as they move forward, and the beeping as they reverse). |
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| ▲ | realo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Forget about EVs. Most regular SUVs should be taken off the road. Look at this example: a dozen kids aligned in a neat row in front of the SUV and the soccer mom drivers can see none of them! https://www.nbcwashington.com/investigations/driveway-danger... | | |
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| ▲ | tstrimple 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is one of the things I really like about driving a minivan. Excellent visibility compared to just about any other vehicle, including sedans. A combination of higher sitting position with larger windows and sloping hood really opens up sight lines. My son has a Mazda 2 and I hate driving that thing. Feels like the columns and ride height really kills visibility. |
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| ▲ | epistasis 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Fair point, I edited my comment to reflect it! However I think your EV examples shows an important attitude about what types of vehicles can be regulated. EVs are fair game for regulation, oversize trucks and SUVs are not. That's an attitude not based on safety, but on societal priorities. This two-class system extends even beyond safety regulations, into emissions regulations too. Trucks and oversize SUVs get a free-ride out of everybody else in society. | | |
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