I don't see a lot of talk about how AI development breaks the old feedback loop of write code, watch it run, change it, repeat. I really hate sitting around waiting for the agent to get done planning, reading the plan, then waiting for the agent to get done coding. It's those 5-10 minute windows when its working that really sap my patience and suck all the fun out of our jobs. Writing code by hand is just more fun.

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thewebguyd 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Writing code by hand is just more fun.

This is something that I don't see discussed a lot in these conversations, but its true for a ton of folks.

I didn't end up with a career in tech because I wanted to tell a bot to do the fun part of my job for me, leaving me only with the boring tedious parts. I didn't sign up to be a full time code reviewer, and I certainly never wanted to be a manager, yet alone a manager of bots.

It also can't help but spark feelings of "Why am I getting paid 6 figures for this??" and that makes me nervous for the future.

I imagine the engineers and assemblers in factories pre-assembly line felt the same when things started getting automated there. There's an element of craftsmanship that gets taken away as the product moves from being artisanal, hand crafted to mass produced.

I wonder if its too late for me to pivot to hardware

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jmuguy 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah its hard to deny just the raw throughput from the AI. Like it really is doing work in hours that would take me days.

But those times when I had to drop down into a repl and play around with the output of a method. Or try different ways of doing what anyone else would think is boring, like array manipulation - that's a lot of what I actually LIKE to do.

A big part of me just hopes I can hang in there for another... decade, or two. Then I can retire! Maybe.

	▲	alex_suzuki 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> another... decade, or two I’m rooting for two! :-)

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hombre_fatal 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't mind the workflow since I'll spawn new agent sessions in new terminal tabs until my attention is saturated by round-robin'ing through them.

It's actually kinda pleasant, especially when I consider all the tickets I'm not excited about doing. It's prob worth focusing on that aspect of it.

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lionkor 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can still write code by hand. Just do that, you will run into tasks that are too boring, those you can do with an LLM.

	▲	chris_money202 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think a lot of developers who enjoy writing code are in an internal battle knowing they could write it themselves or AI could do it and probably do at same speed or many times faster. It's a contradiction as a developer because we always want to do whatever it is we are doing at the optimal speeds but we also like writing code. So, you're being forced to choose where you stand at a fundamental level.