Cohere's First Model for Developers

moojacob 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was a fan of coheres general purpose LLM. Command A I think? Before they came out with their reasoning model.

More competition is better.

I always forget the VRAM requirements on these MOE things

	▲	sipjca an hour ago \| parent [-]
		fwiw because of the relatively few activated params offloading to system RAM is quite feasible, you can see the endless amount of people doing this on r/localllama with qwen3.6 35a3b

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tonyrice 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm excited to see more OSS models

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zuzululu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wasn't aware that Cohere was still around but this release doesn't exactly instill confidence.

	▲	greyb 9 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>Wasn't aware that Cohere was still around but this release doesn't exactly instill confidence. It's being kept alive because the Canadian government is desperate to have a local frontier lab and is willing to inject funding and force its adoption in government services, but leadership at Cohere is known to be weak in Canadian tech circles, and they pivoting to an enterprise-first market around production RAG rather than anything close to frontier work. I'm glad they're doing open weight releases but they're not viable in the long-run. It is embarrassing sharing similar spaces with them.
	▲	kadoban 37 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Really? Why not. From the benchmarks at least it's a pretty decent small model.

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moralestapia 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Our plan to being profitable is to give mediocre stuff for free

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cyanydeez 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

looks like it's just qwen 3.6 coder.

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lumost 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

its worse at code compared to qwen 3.6 coder.

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SubiculumCode 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you mean it's based on qwen 3.6 coder?

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daemonologist 2 hours ago | parent [-]

There is no "coder" version of Qwen 3.6; I think they just mean it's a coding-focused model of similar size and performance (to Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B).

Regular Qwen 3.6 benchmarks slightly better and has much wider software support though, so this is probably of interest only to organizations which disallow models trained in China.

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kadoban 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean, Qwen 3.6 kicks ass. I don't know who these people are, but if their first outing is "not quite as good as Qwen 3.6", that's not a bad start by any means.

30B vs 35B isn't nothing either.

If it ends up just being some tweaks to someone else's weights, then meh.

	▲	mtone 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It was trained from scratch by Cohere. They're the only Canadian AI lab - I'm glad they're releasing open weights and I wish them luck catching up!