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VirusNewbie 4 hours ago

This is why it's important to get paid in stock. I get an automatic extra 100k a year if inflation runs hot!

twoodfin 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What advantages does that have over taking your paycheck 100% in cash and investing in index funds?

sokoloff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In most cases, you are granted a notional dollar amount that is immediately turned into a concrete and fixed number of shares that then vest over the next 4 years.

Then, any share price appreciation on the shares is captured by you at vesting, rather than being paid in cash (the value of which has been inflated away) and then purchasing shares/index that has risen in the last 1-4 years.

If you are paid in cash, you will be buying fewer shares per dollar (and per year) rather than getting the same number.

twoodfin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Right, but cash compensation could be structured the same way, minus whatever would be settled on for the retention value to the employer of the vesting schedule.

I get your point. The value of stock isn’t that it’s stock per se, but rather that it’s inflation-resistant even when illiquid.

VirusNewbie 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

It's optionality that only has an upside financially, while the downside is just having to do more interviews.

Let's say you're worth 300k on the open market as a senior software engineer. If you get a job that pays 200k a year + 400k in stock over four years, you're making ~300k.

Except if after the first year, the stock goes up 30%, you're making 330k the second year + whatever cash raise you get. Then if it goes up another 10%, and so on... etc.

If, however the stock falls after the first year, presumably you can go out and find another 300k a year job at a different company.

VirusNewbie 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Because I get way more money.

dominotw 3 hours ago | parent [-]

hope you dont work for salesforce

bluGill 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've known a few people who lost everything when the company went bankrupt. (most died of old age when I was a kid - before pension reform companies often did put your retirement in the company stocks)

PierceJoy 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If inflation due to energy costs is running hot they’ll have to raise rates which will cause stock prices to fall.

jfyi 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We are bottlenecked at energy supply, not running hot via demand. Raising rates is likely to stifle already weak sections of the economy. Additionally, we are getting into territory where raising rates threatens our own ability to pay our debt.

Just to be clear, I am not coming at this from some anti-interventionist or anti-monetary tool standpoint. It's just that demand side tools seem like the wrong lever for the job. We are backing slowly into the corner of persistent inflation or structural failure of some kind.