It's still present. JSON/JS parsing still has a delay. And in either case (as the author states) not everyone is using an iPhone over 5G. Heavy React apps are a miserable experience on low end Android phones, even when the connection is fast. I've seen JS/JSON parsing times in the multiple seconds.

	▲	jorisw 5 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		There's 5 bars 5G and there's one bar 5G anyway... Citing connection types really is completely beside the point.
	▲	aziaziazi 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		My old iPhone handles well react apps, but frequently freeze/crash on heavy advertised pages and pages with huge images/auto loading videos.

▲

jorisw 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't think there's any palpable difference as long as the connection is any good?

	▲	hamburglar 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think there’s a palpable difference but many young developers have no concept of why.

▲

pier25 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The vast majority of global users are not using iPhones.

	▲	alex_suzuki 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, that was kind of the point of my comment. Apparently not well made.

▲

shakna 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Salesforce and SAP are not fast, even on that. But ubiquitous for building corporate platforms for their customers.

▲

kitd 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Read the article. Typical users had old browsers often with poor reception. One user was using a PlayStation Portable which had very limited WWW capability.

▲

sarchertech 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The person you are replying to is saying the PMs are using new phones on WiFi, not that the customers are.

	▲	alex_suzuki 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Thank you.

▲

msla 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"What, support Safari? Isn't that, like, less than 20%? And its standards support is abysmal! No, not worth my time, they can upgrade to a normal browser like everyone else."

▲

nonethewiser 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But if they dont, where is the disrespect? They dont know what a megabyte is, they dont feel a slow page load. Where is the disrespect?

React is too heavy weight for a lot of things. But it's ridiculous to call it disrespectful.

▲

Ruarl 4 hours ago | parent [-]

If Rick Rubin could take a tape to his car to listen to his mixes, your product people can try their websites on £20 phones from Tesco. They can ask to sit in on user tests with minority groups. Extending your knowledge like this is trivial, but rarely done.

▲

genewitch 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

May i ask why, specifically, Rick Rubin? I don't know who that is, but whenever we finished mastering a new song, we had a series of "systems" we listened to it on. We went out to my dad's work van and listened there. We called up our friend with a street-comp sound system in his car, and listened in there (neighbors must have loved us!), and then a "cheap" boombox with large-ish speakers but cheap.

if it sounded "clean" on all 3, without the bass muffling everything, and the highs not hurting the eardrums, we called it "good" and released.

	▲	bgarbiak 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Working in the music industry and not being aware who Rick Rubin is… is a bit weird.

▲

nonethewiser 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah but for those not using £20 phones from Tesco, where is the disrespect?

▲

pier25 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The consequences of MBs of JavaScript can be perceived by anyone in terms of performance and mobile data consumption.

▲

alok-g 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

+1.

I have been asked by someone in late 40s why uploading a video takes a lot longer than uploading a photo.

They are not dumb people. They just do not know.

The onus is on the engineers to design for them.

▲

epolanski 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're not a good and modern engineer who knows his craft if you aren't defaulting to react and tailwind.

And don't dare to contradict me, the fact that MIT-bred leetcode ninjas paid half a million per year can't produce a simple (mostly static) website on that stack it's only because of management that wants to ship the next product. /s