| ▲ | armadyl 5 days ago |
| This is incorrect macOS is fundamentally more secure than desktop Linux operating systems and it isn't particularly close. No amount of Linux hardening will get a system even close to an M-chip Mac. Software insecurities aside, desktop Linux OS systems have almost none of the hardware-backed security benefits that Macs do. |
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| ▲ | TimTheTinker 5 days ago | parent [-] |
| At some point, lack of security becomes a feature. A fully secure, locked-down, T2 attested macOS is able to be controlled not just by Apple, but by increasingly evil governments, with no recourse available to users. |
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| ▲ | armadyl 5 days ago | parent [-] | | Conversely, a Linux system with no verified boot can be easily tampered with without the user detecting it by people lower than the government such as casual hackers. So in a world where your government is going crazy, you're opting for an operating system that can be penetrated with relative ease (e.g. with persistent root malware) both by a non-government hacker on top of a state backed one. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 5 days ago | parent [-] | | I'd also guess it's much harder to securely source components for a Linux build in the way Apple is able to. | | |
| ▲ | armadyl 5 days ago | parent [-] | | It's not really about supply chain security it's about the hardware itself. PC manufacturers in general just can't keep up since they don't have full control/integration over the hardware stack like Apple does. Also CPU, secure element etc security is limited but Qualcomm is catching up pretty quickly I believe if they aren't there already. We won't talk about Intel and AMD. But that's beyond my knowledge so I can't say anything too specific that's just what I have from general knowledge I'm sure someone will jump in with additional info if needed. I don't think Apple is particularly any more secure against the US government than Intel is with supply chain vulnerabilities but I have nothing to back that up with aside from vibes. |
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