| ▲ | kypro 3 hours ago |
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| ▲ | saagarjha 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Yeah I think a culture that turns away asylum seekers is pretty awful tbh |
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| ▲ | stouset 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Your xenophobia is not welcome here. |
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| ▲ | Dig1t 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sweden imported large numbers of people from Syria and Afghanistan, their gun violence rate has increased tenfold since 1990 because of it. >Homicide rates are heavily concentrated among individuals born outside of Sweden. For example, the homicide rate for 16-to-19-year-olds born in Africa was 161 per 100,000, and 78 per 100,000 for those born in Asia. In comparison, the rate for 16-to-19-year-olds born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents was 15 per 100,000. It is entirely valid to ask questions about where your refugees come from. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_Sweden >https://bra.se/english/publications/archive/2025-07-04-homic... | |
| ▲ | thin_carapace 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | do you have an answer as to how you would react if an ardent proponent of sharia law became your neighbour? or am i a xenophobe too for daring to consider the idea that aspects of some cultures are actively incompatible with certain aspects of others |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > how diverse are we talking? Switzerland is deceptively effective at assimilation. Migrants tend to learn the local language and customs. |
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| ▲ | wat10000 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Many people are awful. I’d be fine with Afghan refugees moving in. Even if we accept the premise that Afghan culture is “awful,” wouldn’t the fact that they’ve fled the country indicate they’re not exactly in sync with that culture? I live in an extremely diverse area with many immigrants on my street and it’s fine. |
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| ▲ | yonaguska 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | They could have fled for any number of reasons- that doesn't mean that they aren't exactly in sync with the culture they are coming from. And even if they aren't in sync with the culture they are fleeing- they very likely still hold radically different values than you. I met a man from Afghanistan sometime last year, however, once we got past the introductions and realized we shared things in common- he opened up to me and began trying to make me realize the value of Sharia law in America, and how much better it would be here if it became the cultural norm. | | |
| ▲ | wat10000 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’ve had that experience as well, except instead of Afghanistan it was America, and instead of Sharia law it was Biblical law. I am far more afraid of certain of my native-born countrymen than I am of people who come here. | |
| ▲ | wizzwizz4 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sharia law is quite big! So big that I'm fairly certain that there is at least one aspect of Sharia law that you would agree with, even if (as it sounds like) you are overall against. If you accept that, you can have a honest discussion of the merits and detriments. I find it's best to break these things down and discuss them individually (or discuss how multiple rules combine to produce a particular effect, as the case may be): then it's easier to tease out which arguments are honest ("I genuinely think X is better, for Y reasons") and dishonest ("I think X is better for Y reasons, but I believe you'll find Z more persuasive, so I'll say Z"). There's also a phenomenon where people attribute beneficial (or detrimental) properties to one, visible part of a system, when they're really due to another: consider the arguments about capitalism versus communism, which are rarely actually about economic policy, and are more often about other (on the face of it, unrelated) policies of the state: your interlocutor might realise this after detailed discussion, if that is what is going on, when otherwise they might have gone their whole life without noticing the misattribution (as many people do). Cultural exchange can be mutually-beneficial, even if you both go away thinking "wow, that other guy was an idiot". |
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