| ▲ | t0mas88 4 hours ago | |
And at the same time they claim it can't be rolled out in Europe because the DMA would force them to allow selection of other AI providers? Which would not even be true if this was an Apple product built on the models of Google, just like the DMA does not force them to pick a different datacenter of office cleaning provider. | ||
| ▲ | matthewfcarlson 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |
There's a post here: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de... Take it with a grain of salt but I don't think it's other AI providers that Apple is upset about. The DMA would require users to be able install any openclaw like thing onto their device with access to everything that Siri can access today. There are all sorts of arguments to be made here but I can understand why Apple feels this way and wants to offer a good experience here. | ||
| ▲ | tansanrao 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
Looks like the problem with DMA has more to do with giving full access to other providers outside of the on-device + private cloud compute architecture. The way I interpret the newsroom post [1], Apple doesn't want to give third-party providers full access to user data when the third-party providers cannot run on private cloud compute for privacy reasons, but the EU wants them to offer the choice anyway. [1]: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-de... | ||
| ▲ | troupo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |
> they claim it can't be rolled out in Europe because the DMA would force them to allow selection of other AI providers They don't claim that. All they said is "later in the EU as we look into privacy and security" after spending two hours saying how private and secure everything is. DMA would force them to allow usage from other apps than their own and other assitants than Siri, especially for on-device models. Edit I stand somewhat corrected but it's regular Apple bullshit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48451012 | ||