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nraleigh 3 hours ago

This move kind of reminds me of the original iPhone with google maps. You're competing with google, but you're using their infrastructure. Why wouldn't they just go with another provider like OpenAI or Anthropic?

nemothekid 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Given that they had originally selected OpenAI for Siri, and that deal fell through, I would guess something about their relationship with OpenAI fell through. Maybe OpenAI wouldn't let Apple run their model on Apple's servers.

al_borland 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To be fair, with the original iPhone they weren't competing. Google did backend web stuff well, so Apple partnered with them and made nice local apps that were fed by Google's cloud data. The same was true for the YouTube app.

After Google saw the iPhone (before the public), they pivoted their vision for Android (it was originally on blackberry-style hardware), and that's when the "thermonuclear war" started. Kind of interesting Steve Jobs would have showed the iPhone off like that, when something very similar happened with Bill Gates, which prompted the development of Windows (according to Jobs).

19 years later, it's probably time to be pragmatic again. If Apple isn't able to deliver on some of these AI integrations into the OS, they risk losing users to Android. If they have to pay someone for a model, they might as well choose the one they think is going to be best for their users. This keeps existing iPhone users on iPhone, and may pull over some Android users looking for the same features, but with better privacy. That seems like a win for Apple. To pay OpenAI instead of Google would just be spite at this point. Maybe well deserved, but the leadership has all changed over in the last two decades, so they'd be fighting old wars. Though I think they should still think twice before showing Google anything that hasn't yet been released.

WarmWash 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google is almost closer to a conglomerate than a coherent horizontally integrated corporation. The individual parts of Google are like Fortune500 companies themselves, and tend to act in their own interest.

Tactical45 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OpenAI or Anthropic are not anywhere as well funded as Google. Apple already has everyone in their pocket via the ecosystem, they just have to not crap the bed. They value stability over the competitive component here.

ralph84 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pretty much all of big tech compete with each other in some areas and partner in others.

Google probably gave them the best deal. When you're the #3 player you'll sacrifice margins to drive volume.

spike021 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

not just google maps but google search itself has been on the iphone since it launched

MattDamonSpace 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are they competing with Google?

david-gpu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What do you consider Android to be, if not a competitor of iOS?

kube-system 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Most Android devices aren't even Google products, and for much of Android's existence, none of them were. Android is a way to get ads in front of people... as is their partnerships with Apple.

wahnfrieden an hour ago | parent [-]

That describes Google's business. For Apple, Google is a competitor. An Android user is one less iOS user.

kube-system 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Then it's in their best interest to enable many Google products in iOS to give people less of a reason to buy an Android phone.

d--b 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yeah or Magento teaming up with the X-Men to defeat the military in X2. XD