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tonfa 3 hours ago

Especially after we saw how happy the EU was to negotiate (they didn't budge) when https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiat... passed.

The new initiative is basically the same, but with no leeway to ignore it.

(that said I suspect if it passes, there will be something tied to the bilateral referendum in 2027/28 to try to supersede it)

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> if it passes, there will be something tied to the bilateral referendum in 2027/28 to try to supersede it

This is my thinking, too. If it really comes down to Chexit-or-nothing, we’ll have another referendum.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That was the UK's thinking, too. "We won't have a hard Brexit! Of course they'll negotiate a plan!"

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-]

And then the UK delivered an Article 50 notice. That isn’t something this referendum would force.

ceejayoz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The UK's referendum was also non-binding, in theory.

JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> UK's referendum was also non-binding, in theory

If SVP gets control of government they’ll probably try to Chexit irrespective of any referendum power. That’s orthogonal to this question.

tonfa 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well there's anyway going to be a referendum about the bilateral. (which is why I find the initiative somewhat stupid, you can vote on the real deal in a few years, about whether people want or do not want to have agreements with the EU, instead of hiding it behind a fake/emotional reason)