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SecretDreams 5 hours ago

Look, there's two things:

* LLMs are useful

* Company valuations around LLMs are not realistic

Both can be true, much like they were during the Dotcom bubble. The internet turned out to be a pretty real thing. A couple examples below might feel familiar in the next couple months/years.

> Blucora (then InfoSpace): Founded by Naveen Jain, at its peak its market cap was $31 billion and was the largest Internet business in the American Northwest. In March 2000, its stock price reached $1,305 per share, but by 2002 the price had declined to $2.

> Broadcast.com: A streaming media website that was acquired by Yahoo! for $5.9 billion in stock, making Mark Cuban and Todd Wagner multi-billionaires. The site is now defunct.

> eToys.com: An online toy retailer whose stock price hit a high of $84.35 per share in October 1999. In February 2001, it filed for bankruptcy with $247 million in debt. It was acquired by KB Toys, which later also filed for bankruptcy.

> GeoCities: Founded by David Bohnett, it was acquired by Yahoo! for $3.57 billion in January 1999[20] and was shut down in 2009.

> MicroStrategy: After rising from $7 to as high as $333 in a year, its shares lost $140, or 62%, on March 20, 2000, following the announcement of a financial restatement for the previous two years by founder Michael J. Saylor.

** Some scams transcend time **

Great link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_affected_by_...

joxdosba 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Btw how much is MicroStrategy down since the year 2000?

SecretDreams 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I was expecting this comment. You know the answer. A scam will keep scamming.

There are also legitimate companies from the dotcom bubble era like amazon, microsoft, and intel. They all were vastly overpriced during the dotcom era. Probably also now lol.

dluxem 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am of the same mindset as you, but you also have to look at PE multiples of Cisco in 1999 and Nvidia today. One being the "ammunition" supplier in the battle for the Internet, and the other supplier in the battle for AI.

Cisco was over 400 at one point and Nvidia is around 30. Not quite the same.

Other players today: - Digital Realty 48x - Equinix 75x - CoreWeave (still losing money)

There is likely a bubble of some type here, but I don't think this is the same as the Dotcom bubble.

SecretDreams 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The circular financing aspects in the current era are really obscuring some of the financials. There are also very legitimate companies offering very real products. The big issue today is that things feel a lot more obscured and interconnected, which makes it hard to discern shit from gold. Does not help when the gold and shit are swimming in the same circles and shaking hands with all the same people.