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nelsonfigueroa 3 hours ago

"Fourth, we will not find ourselves working less. Rather, there will be a bimodal outcome: those unable to find a place in the new AI-powered industry will fall out of it entirely, while those that remain are worked harder and harder as they drive automated development systems. Five PRs a week? Hah! Try fifty. Or five hundred."

My experience with AI/LLMs summed up. The baseline expectation got higher. I didn't get any time back. My life didn't become easier.

9dev 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As it was the case with all productivity catalysts in the past. The Industrial Revolution promised machines would work and we’d get to have leisure time. Instead, it brought 16 hour factory shifts. This will be no different

armchairhacker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

The industrial revolution hasn’t led to people working less, but it has led to more output: created more luxuries, made previous-luxuries available to lower classes, and reduced extreme poverty.

Joker_vD 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Instead, it brought 16 hour factory shifts.

To paraphrase Marx, "And so, the equivalent amount of labour required to produce the goods needed to sustain a worker for a day is, say, 4 hours. But that doesn't mean the selfsame worker can work for no longer that 4 hours! He can be forced to work six, or eight, or twelve hours a day, and whatever additional goods he produces — that's the surplus product, which in this case goes straight to line up the factory owner's pockets".

frizlab an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

One of the big reasons why I hated AI since day one.

wiseowise 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would it? Who, with a half brain, thought that you’d ever work less?

selfhoster1312 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many economists, already from the 19th century, claimed that technological progress would reduce the workweek. Some imagined we'd work 3 days per week, others only 1. Some imagined we'd work a few hours everyday.

I remember many people even on this very site claiming AI would help humanity. I think the most ridiculous the most ridiculous claim was helping fight climate change, but helping produce more leisure time by automating work was definitely what some people thought, or at least what they wanted us to think while pushing their crap.

watwut 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Literally no one, no one even claimed we would work less due to AI. It is one of many absurd claims about AI here. There was no period in which we would get think pieces predicting more leisure time.

We had plenty of think pieces about making people obsolete, about destruction, generally in celebratory tone. I cant even think of period where AI think pieces would promises much positive - it was sold to CEOs, so pitch was always "higher unemployment".

graemep an hour ago | parent [-]

> Literally no one, no one even claimed we would work less due to AI. It is one of many absurd claims about AI here. There was no period in which we would get think pieces predicting more leisure time.

https://www.newsbytesapp.com/news/business/ari-emanuels-3b-v...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/11/ignore-the-d...

https://time.com/6268804/artificial-intelligence-pissarides-...

> I cant even think of period where AI think pieces would promises much positive - it was sold to CEOs, so pitch was always "higher unemployment".

Higher unemployment means people work less.