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eduction 2 hours ago

Lotta comments talking about Trump but they were ejected by academic conference organizers for violating a code of conduct.

I think codes of conduct for fine but evidently many people here feel they can violate free speech which is interesting because when they were criticized on that basis amid their widespread adoption several years ago people branded the critics knuckle dragging misogynists.

And when Apple started responding to Democratic political pressure to eg ban Parler (which happened) this was seen as not a free speech issue because it was an action between private parties. Like this one.

I happen to think free speech is imperiled by everyone with power - dems, republicans, academic administrators police departments App Store operators etc to infinity. But a lot of people seem to be selective in their outrage. That doesn’t work. It’s either a human right and matter of principle and beneficial to support or it isn’t.

If you’re upset about this I hope you’re also riled about France going after Elon Musk for the political opinions on X. And Neil Young demanding Joe Rogan be ejected from Spotify.

adrian_b 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As TFA explains and other posters have also mentioned, they did not violate any code of conduct. Only the organizers have violated the code of conduct.

A conference for the members of a medical association has the stated purpose of providing a venue for the exchange of information between the members. When the authors of an article published in the journal of the said medical association distribute free copies of that article to their colleagues who attend the conference, they do exactly the thing for which the conference is organized.

Only a shameless liar can claim that such an action is a "violation of the code of conduct".

mbmbn an hour ago | parent [-]

Any reasonable person, would understand that a scientific organization aim of promoting the share of information between members, applies to scientific information, not to political propaganda.

9dev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Where is the line between political propaganda and pointing out malconduct of the administration that is relevant to practitioners?

mbmbn an hour ago | parent [-]

This is part of a paragraph of the article being distributed:

“These proposed cuts would eliminate the National Institute on Minority Health and Health Disparities, which they claim “is replete with DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion] expenditures,” the Fogarty International Center, which is responsible for funding degree programs in foreign countries that benefit the health of all, including Americans, and the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health, whose charge includes supporting research and offering information about complementary health approaches in the setting of whole-person health.”

This is ideological. It’s got nothing to do with medical science and research.

9dev an hour ago | parent [-]

Also this article:

> The numerous measles outbreaks and associated avoidable deaths have resulted in part from hyping disproven theories of harm rather than publicizing the effectiveness of the measles vaccine

> Plugging the concept that diabetes is curable by “changing the food source” simply ignores the large body of work that has demonstrated that it is not merely a disease of poor nutrition and the immense challenges of reinventing the food industry

> If this policy continues, it will greatly reduce the number of funded programs or even eliminate them. Will the reduction and elimination of these major programs be in the best interest of science and improve the health of the American public in general and individuals with diabetes in particular?

They are very concretely worried because the current administration is demonstrably directing funding for research projects away from scientists (and into the Trump family pockets, which is equally well documented. They are worried because Diabetes research is threatened by budget cuts.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This comment doesn’t say anything…

croes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> All attendees will conduct themselves in a professional and respectful manner, free from any form of discrimination, harassment, or intimidation,” the code of conduct states. “Inappropriate conduct, including but not limited to harassment; threatening or unwelcome physical or verbal actions; or disorderly or disruptive conduct such as protesting, will not be tolerated.”

Which part did they violate?