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wartywhoa23 2 hours ago

The whole HN is one huge AI ad now.

josephg an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I think AI programming just has a bliss period for a lot of people where it feels like you can solve every problem with a prompt. And you can, for a time. Eventually the chickens come home to roost and you realise what a mess you made.

Give it some time. We’ll figure out what LLMs are good and bad at. I think vibe engineering will eventually go up on the wall next to static vs dynamic typing and vi vs eMacs.

At least, that assumes AI models won’t keep improving by leaps and bounds. We’re in a transition period. It’s gonna be chaos.

JumpCrisscross a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

> eventually the chickens come home to roost and you realise what a mess you made

But a lot of times they don't. Devs building websites for small businesses used to be a thing, and it was almost universally a crap product. Practically every restaurant in my small town has been able to take control of their own website with AI, and it's a better experience for everyone.

finghin a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think there’s a good chance low effort AI content and vibecoding effectively become an eternal September

k8sToGo 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yesterday I needed a tool for a specific task. In 1 hour I created a working tool with antigravity. Is it something I'd publish or sell or offer to others? Probably not, but I found that quite impressive. It is an extension of the idea "now I can program and create everything."

Besides I remember what kind of code we had when we first started coding with AI and now with all these coding agents etc. it has become quite impressive.

However, at the end it is still a tool and needs to be used accordingly.

kennywinker 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

You can create anything you need as long as what you need is a disposable script, a scotch-taped together single page app, or a complex problem and you have thousands of dollars to throw at tokens.

t_mahmood 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Hey, at least vi vs emacs is fun, no matter how crappy as an editor Emacs is, no one is getting paid by privacy invasive corporate, to sway people, to cash out more money

chvid 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I thought we were too anti-AI?

simondotau 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Pro- or anti-AI, it's seemingly related or tangentially related to half of the discussions on HN.

ozim an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Depends which agent you ask to cherry pick comments for sentiment analysis.

signatoremo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, confirmation bias. You see what support your beliefs, ignoring anti AI articles being promoted.

jwpapi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m looking for an alternative too..

OtomotO 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a cult. And frankly, I am not interested in churches or cults.

simondotau 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The utility of current-era AI may well be overstated, and the business models of certain companies might be doubtful, but that doesn't make AI it a "cult".

OtomotO 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

AI is not a cult, HN regarding AI is.

It's boring and it's viral and if you refuse to participate, there are still people annoying you with their beliefs.

It's a fucking tool, like a fucking shovel.

Terr_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In between some old family history and recent US politics, I think there are other things I'd rather reserve the weighty word "cult" for... However, should it arise, one of the features that might convince me is this:

In the name of "loyalty" or "faith" cults require members to burn their bridges, actively cutting off their own potential to escape to any other social support network. That may mean creating enemies out of former associates, humiliating rituals or blackmail material, or simply ruining their reputations through obvious lies.

OtomotO 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't particularly care about the US or US politics since 2016.

Unless you invade a country again and we have to deal with the Fallout for years to come, that is.

For example: I have banned all news about Trump administration from my home.

It's simply not interesting. He is a toddler, and I have a toddler of my own.

narrator an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It's also a huge ad for microprocessors. I mean don't people realize we did math before microprocessors? We even had mechanical machines which were much more elegant than these electronic abominations. /s