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shevy-java 4 hours ago

> So the administration is taking it out on Israel, who wanted us to do it.

Well, it is clear to see that this is Netanyahu's ploy, but the thing is that Trump constantly lies about this. "There are negotiations", but then the US bombs again. To me it seems as if Trump operates in a way that makes it impossible to have anything else but drop bombs onto Iran. In this way he resembles Putin, who tries to occupy more and more land belonging to Ukraine. Putin has no alternative to this either, similar to Trump. (Yes, Putin could in theory stop his war, but he tied his identity to it. I don't see how he can stop it, without having achieved officially stated goals of his genocidal invasion.)

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Tade0 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Yes, Putin could in theory stop his war, but he tied his identity to it

More like his life. He will not survive the end of this war.

vkou 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah. There are always face-saving offramps... And examples like Saddam doing just fine after his failed invasion of Iran.

If the war ended tomorrow, and Russia withdrew from Ukraine, Putin would still be enjoying ~50% organic support among Russians.

Just like Trump has a ~35% approval floor of complete idiots standing behind him as he sends inflation and gas prices and cost of living through the roof...

Putin enjoys fairly wide actual support for generally developing the country over his tenure. Whether someone else would have done better is not the hypothetical people are engaging with.

Tade0 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

The Russo-Japanese war ultimately didn't end well for the Romanovs.

A lot of people died in suspicious circumstances.

I mean, someone has to be held accountable for that, don't they?