> Which is to say: Grok basically failed as a frontier AI and they need to pivot to a business model which makes money.

They can just run Grok as a local AI inside Tesla cars. It's actually really efficient as a compute platform because the Tesla cars are in motion at highway speeds, which gives you lots of free airflow for shedding waste heat via the car radiator. Way more efficient than trying to run AI on space satellites.

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thefounder 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Grok is just DOA. No need to beat a dead horse. Even Musk got that thus the reason why he is renting the stuff it planned for Grok.

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zozbot234 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Grok has plenty of "non-woke AI" cred which will make it a preferred choice for lots of government-side and politically sensitive workloads.

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thefounder 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I am pretty sure the gov gets an uncensored /heretic version of the AI models instead of the nanny stuff we get so Grok really doesn’t have a “killer” feature. Even for multi model passes(I.e used purely as a contrarian gate) it’s not really that great due the high rate of hallucinations.

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upfrog an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anecdotally, Grok is mostly not that anti-woke. It is coasting off of its reputation from Elon's marketing. That said, it does have meaningfully fewer guardrails, which is a real benefit.

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myko 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nazi AI is bad actually, most governments will not want to be associated with it

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malcolmgreaves 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you think the term woke actually means?

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someguynamedq 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think their point is less that it really means something and more that enough customers think it means something to provide economic opportunity

	▲	duchef 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The only frontier lab to be selling the compute rather than inference seems to say more about this economic opportunity.

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iso1631 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Something which is inconvenient to trumptys

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root_axis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

lol, not sure if this is a joke, but Teslas do not have anything close to the necessary hardware to run grok locally.

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dawnerd 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Who’s going to be paying for the energy? People have been floating using the cars as compute for years and it just doesn’t make any financial sense for anyone.

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itishappy 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Teslas spend a tiny percentage of their life at highway speeds, and a major selling point of the platform is that their compute would be used to pilot the vehicle.

If they could train using Teslas they wouldn't have needed Dojo.