That's incredibly dismissive of a product that some people find valuable enough to pay money for it. I'm not sure what ZIRP has to do with that, the post states he didn't take VC funding. Is UX not important to you?

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hypfer 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, precisely. That was the point.

Judging the product by its merits/substance and not by its storytelling/hype/hustle.

UX is important to me! That's why I do not use the inferior web client of telegram wrapped in electron but the real qt one.

Or, alternatively, I just pin the tab in my browser. The UX is so good there, you can even do some surfing beside the chatting.

Almost feels like the good old times of presto-based opera.

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fragmede 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If UX is important to you, how are you missing the point of the app? It seems you are going with the anti-hype against Electron apps and not engaging with the merits/substance of the app.

	▲	hypfer an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Nah, idc if it's electron or not. What I do care about is if it is a _wrapper_ around someone else's application or not. If you write your own whatsapp/telegram/whatever client, be my guest. But just taking someone else's product and bare-minimum repackaging it is not the level of merit that would warrant 10 years of literally anything; let alone asking for payment for it. Impostorware ____ Also, just think about what a slap in the face this is for the people putting in the hard work of actually building the aforementioned web clients. Some random other person comes along, takes their stuff and receives all the credit. Which, yeah, okay, utilizing market inefficiencies. So that's clever. But it is also rather unethical. In my book, anyway. Your ethics may vary. ____ Having empathy is good and important and all, but you need to point it at the right people. However, those rarely are the ones that are good at storytelling (in which Franz absolutely exceeds. Good job.) Anyway. I repeat myself. My point is that I think you might've automatically deployed a defense script, which is good in itself, but bad when you're being effectively manipulated into deploying it against your own interests. Which is.. well. ZIRP and its consequences

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croes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Paying customers isn’t a good measure.

Some people paid for this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich