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andrewthornton 7 hours ago

My furnace went out during the 2025 holiday and I couldn't get an appointment with a repair person for 2 days. It was getting very cold in my house so I went into my attic and made several videos of the furnace attempting to start and gave it to gemini. It diagnosed the issue immediately and had me spin one of the components (a small exhaust fan) while the furnace tried to fire. It came on immediately. I had to do that several times, but it worked until the HVAC service showed up.

jodacola 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Very similar thing this week, and an interesting story to go along with it!

I called my normal HVAC company for my rental home because the tenant reported the AC wasn't cooling the house. When I called, I got one of the latest AI voice assistants to help me, and it was an awful experience and I ended up not hearing back after the assistant told me the office would call me back.

So, I went over to the house and used ChatGPT to help me diagnose the issue by taking some photos of the compressor panel outside. It walked me through what to check, I provided some diagnostic codes I witnessed... and it walked me through the very simple repair of replacing the $25 capacitor. It was going to cost me almost 4x that just for the service call to diagnose what was wrong in the first place.

So, the weird experience was: Gen AI made me lose trust in my normal HVAC company, and more Gen AI basically allowed me to replace my HVAC company and do the repair myself all in one day.

brntheater 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Had something similar this week. Gas dryer started, but wouldn't heat. Gemini suggested it's often a thermal fuse. Took off the back panel and uploaded a photo to Gemini. It pointed me to the fuse (e.g. "the white rectangle above the blue and red cords") and walked me through testing it. Not only that, but it also linked me to the part I needed after I provided the model number of the dryer. Finally, it recommended cleaning out the vent as the fuse likely blew because heat wasn't venting properly. After a thorough cleaning of the exhaust and a $5 fuse the dryer is working fine.

tonyedgecombe 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been fitting a kitchen and chatGPT has been useful to bounce ideas off and resolve issues. Of course if IKEA's documentation wasn't so sparse I wouldn't need it but that's another story.

I guess I'm seeing similar benefits to a novice programmer. Professionals would scoff at my work but they are expensive and difficult to work with. Meanwhile I'm getting the job done.

On the other hand I'm not touching AI for any development work. I'm too worried about my skills atrophying or not properly learning anything new.

rustyhancock 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Ikeas instructions are such an oddity.

It feels like there is precisely enough information to deduce each step. But only just enough miss one clue and you have something on upside down on step 7 that you won't notice until step 37.

I feel whoever makes them could probably make a wicked NY Times Crossword puzzle.

dgemm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Similar - had an HVAC tech out to diagnose mine (some intermittent electrical problem was killing thermostats randomly) and since it was intermittent they couldn't figure it out. I ended up using Gemini to narrow down a list of potential problem components and just replacing them all which fixed the issue.

Kind of a superpower to turn anyone with a bit of tech inclination and problem solving skills into an HVAC tech - not a very good one, but one with enough motivation to get the results you need

ssl-3 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's pretty great.

(Though that's also the kind of hands-on troubleshooting step/fix that a person could just google for and find pretty easily back before the internet got all fucked up.)

Cheetah26 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Your parenthetical really describes my experience with AI searches. 5+ years ago I could find most things within one or two quick searches, now it takes so many that of course I'm going to reach for AI because that's the only way to get back to my baseline efficiency.

alberth 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you mind explain more. Did you just prompt to Gemini what was happening, did you give Gemini photos of Furnance, etc?

gwbas1c 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> and made several videos of the furnace attempting to start and gave it to gemini

I assume recorded videos and uploaded them in the Gemini phone on their app; and then probably said "what's wrong?"

Gemini is very good at those kinds of things. I recently got some ratcheting straps and needed to use them, but at the time I didn't know what they were called, so I didn't know what to search for on Google. I opened the Gemini app, pushed the button to take a picture (just like in text messages,) and included a message that was similar to "what is this and how do I use it?"

andrewthornton 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, here is my prompt. It also contained a video: "I have a furnace that will not heat when I reset the power to this unit. It makes some noise within its fan system for about three or four minutes and then I get an error light. Can you help me figure out what may be wrong here?" This prompt is not the best but I was freezing and in my attic.

wombat-man 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh yeah. I can't remember which LLM, but one helped me repair my dryer.

buckle8017 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gemini almost killed you.

The exhaust blower not working triggered a safety that prevented the furnace from firing.

Spinning it bypassed the safety.

You likely inhaled a lot more carbon monoxide than you know.

llbbdd 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can you elaborate? I interpreted the same as the other comment that the blower fan just needed a hand start and kept going after the furnace started up. What you're saying only makes sense to me if the spinning the fan by hand allowed the furnace to start by bypassing the safety at startup, but wouldn't that mean that if the exhaust fan was stopped during normal operation (blockage etc) that the furnace would just keep going, dumping CO into the home?

andrewthornton 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It wasn't bypassing, I was just helping start because of what I believe to have been a bearing issue.

doubled112 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s a pretty normal trick to try while troubleshooting a rotating part.

Helping something start is not likely to ruin your day (unless you get caught in a rotating part)

andrewthornton 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was spinning it in reverse actually, but it would be enough to start the exhaust blower. It would also re-start pretty well for ~6 hours. It was probably the bearing. Also FWIW I have multiple carbon monoxide/air quality monitors and nothing tripped or alarmed.

philipkglass 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the description I thought that a degraded capacitor or lack of lubrication made the blower not start on its own, but the blower (and the whole furnace) would work if given a manual startup spin by hand.

pesus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Welp, AI almost killing someone is definitely an "oh shit" moment.

saturn8601 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Wonder how many AI deaths have occured that we dont know about(since they presumably died). With the adoption numbers we are seeing it much have happened already.

ihsw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The most interesting part is that there is no direct line between someone's accidental death and a chatbot giving life-threatening advice.

Imagine one of the models that has "accidental-deaths-via-bad-advice" just slightly turned up, with the model-provider's intent being to kill 5% more people per year.

kunjanshah 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://www.covenantairesolutions.com/post/what-is-a-furnace...

“At its core, it's a small motor with a fan attached that has one primary job: to vent harmful exhaust gases out of your home before the burners ever kick on. This is the very first step in the heating sequence, and it's non-negotiable for a safe startup.“

Izkata an hour ago | parent [-]

The original comment was unclear whether the fan kept spinning while the furnace was running, or if all it did was bypass the safety and the fan didn't continue to spin while the furnace ran. They clarified in their response it kept spinning.

MPSimmons 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

It seemed obvious to me that this was bearing stiction and that manually rotating it during the start allowed the fan to spin on its own after that, but I could be wrong and maybe the fan was dead entirely?