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Noaidi 2 hours ago

If any of your success was determined by luck than 100% of your success was luck.

xboxnolifes 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is simply not true. If 6 completely qualified people make it to the last stage of an interview based on their qualifications, but the final chosen person was done by die roll, there was still non-luck involved. No amount of luck would have gotten you to the last stage in this example, and the only way for luck to have mattered is if you also put in the leg work.

Noaidi 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

I did not say there was no non luck involved. I said the outcome is always determined by luck.

An example will help maybe. If I need $10 and someone tells me they will give me $9 but the last dollar will be give to me based on the flip of a coin, I only can get that $10 if I am lucky.

And you can even put the luck at the beginning. Same situation but the person says I will give you $9 only if you get the first $1 based on the flip of a coin.

The only way you get $10 in those situations is based all on a lucky outcome. No amount of preparation can guarantee an outcome that involves luck.

I know it is hard because most have beeen brainwashed to think all success is based only on merit and hard work, but it is a lie told to us by lucky people.

tripledry 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

At least they sent the application, that was effort. So it can't be 100% luck right?

Noaidi 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

I did not say it was all luck. I said if any part of the outcome depends on luck, effort is meaningless when it come to the result. This is not to say that doing nothing is better, I am just being realistic.

tombert 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Even if I agree with that characterization, I don’t see how that changes anything from what I said before.

I am sorry if you got “my success is purely because I am a hyper-talented genius” from my anecdote there, because that certainly wasn’t intended. There was absolutely luck involved, no argument, but my point about “applying to a job I wasn’t qualified for” still can hold.