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j1elo 4 hours ago

So in summary:

* GitHub's backwards priorities end up causing a hack on their systems.

* Hackers use their newly gained powers to compromise other people's repos.

* GitHub dectects compromised repo, and suspends the account of its maintainer, so they cannot warn nor act against it to protect or at least warn their community of users.

"I cause a fire, and later ban you for getting burned."

No wonder people are leaving.

zuzululu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Where are they going? If its not self hosted I don't see it not ending up like github.

arealaccount 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why do people not like gitlab? I’ve always found it a better experience than github

plagiarist 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If you're leaving based on security failures, Gitlab is not the place to go.

selfhoster1312 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gitlab's UI changes every now and then, for seemingly no reason. The UI is very full of stuff (hard to find your way around), and very slow. Notably in the past months, they've changed the issues/tickets board into a "work items" board which feels infinitely slower to load, has such a vague meaning that nobody can find it (especially when translated), and brings exactly 0 use to anyone i know. They just seem to be doing that with every feature and every part of the interface.

On the server side, gitlab was always very hard to selfhost with many moving parts, many requirements, and using much resources. gitlab-runner is not very explicit about things when you're not in the happy path (why is it not picking up jobs?).

I'm not even a minimalist. I've been running gitea/forgejo for the past 8 years or so and it's been a miracle in comparison: lightweight server, easy setup/upgrades, and super simpler UI/UX that everybody understands on the first try. Forgejo (gitea community fork) learns from everything that Github historically made good (UX) without any enshitiffication in sight (developed by a non-profit). I highly recommend it.

stronglikedan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

same. so much more intuitive

crazysim 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

codeberg

I had a repo with more than a dozen forks banned on GitHub for some unclear TOS violations. Ticket has been sitting for a week plus now, asking for clarification and guidance.

So, it lives in codeberg now. https://codeberg.org/nelsonjchen/op-replay-clipper

zuzululu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

this just looks like a reskinned gitea

crazysim 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's a running a fork (codeberg specific) of a fork of gitea called forgejo (https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo) so it's not surprising. The people behind it were a bit miffed at Gitea doing some questionable commercial endeavors in their view and also not dog-fooding Gitea for Gitea.

zuzululu 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

huh i did not know that . thanks for forgejo guess im moving

phoronixrly 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There exist competent operations people and competent developers.