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vkou 5 hours ago

What about the pain from overpopulation and a glut of uneducated labour? Doesn't that shit roll downhill, too?

"The poor will always pay for it" is a thought-terminating cliche that is often trotted out in support of the status quo (or some mythical past status quo).

How do you know that past status quo isn't actually worse for them than the direction things are trending? Do you think we somehow stumbled upon some global maximum for them [1], and any deviation from that, in any direction is going to make things worse for them?

[1] In spite of, as you say, shit flowing downhill.

BobaFloutist 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What overpopulation?

danny_codes 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Visit Jakarta

vkou 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The kind you'd find in any place with a housing or food shortage, (or a job shortage if you are the sort of person who has #firstworldproblems) or really any other shortage where some public demand cannot be met by limited supply.

We don't see a lot of food shortages these days, but with climate change fucking with agriculture sufficiently, regular famines in the global south might make a comeback... Or might not, if population growth and degrowth projections solve that problem before crop yields are seriously impacted.