| ▲ | sigmoid10 3 hours ago |
| Seems like these structural integrity problems are always inside the Russian section. So if you're on a Russian mission to Mars, yes it would be reasonable to be worried. Otherwise this seems like a non-issue. |
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| ▲ | tedivm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is just not true. There have been leaks due to micrometers in just about every section of the ship at one point or another. A quick search pulls up examples of US modules having issues, especially around interfaces and seals. NASA had a whole investigation between 2018 and 2021 about the recurring issue. |
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| ▲ | pantalaimon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe we can use the goop from those self sealing bike tires to have self sealing space station modules | |
| ▲ | sigmoid10 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is just wrong. All serious issues that turned out to be safety concerns were in Russian modules. The 2018 leak you refer to here was in a Soyuz capsule and the 2021 leaks were in the Zvezda module (same place they are this time). In between there were also minor leaks in the Zvezda connection tunnel. | | |
| ▲ | threwrfaway 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you count the Soyuz leak, then the Boeing counts too! That was far more serious than anything you listed. Two astronauts stranded for nine months taking the ISIS supplies intended for others. This is after they safely docked, which was considered risky at the time. | | |
| ▲ | HWR_14 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The Boeing mission was scrubbed out of an abundance of caution. IIRC, nothing bad actually happened. | |
| ▲ | sigmoid10 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You brought it up. I have been talking about structural issues with long term core modules. And that is clearly a Russian issue. |
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| ▲ | threwrfaway 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Unless your spacecraft is built by Boeing. We had two astronauts stranded in space for the better part of a year just last year! |
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| ▲ | drysine 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >Otherwise this seems like a non-issue. Except you forgot to mention an epic leak in Destiny just three years after it was attached to the ISS: "At its highest rate, the station was leaking about 5 pounds of air per day overboard." [0] Imagine that happening on the 4th year of American Mars mission. Also, if you on American mission to Mars, it would be reasonable to worry about cooling system dying mid-flight requiring three spacewalks to fix it: "We'd lose cooling capability to half of the electronics on the U.S., European and Japanese part of the space station." [1] [0] https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna3882962 [1] https://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1007/31station/ |
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| ▲ | ofjcihen 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Ah yes, the well traveled and highly tested human mission to Mars. |
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| ▲ | sigmoid10 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The 10 non-Russian modules have been in vacuum for a quarter century and have done just fine despite facing more debris than in interplanetary space. So yes, this aspect is well tested. This stuff is literally part of the reason why the ISS exists in the first place. | | |
| ▲ | threwrfaway 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The hubris of forgetfulness; to think that until Elon showed up the West couldn't even put a person in space anymore. The Soyuz, the MIR, the human space records, the Venera program, closed cycle rockets, all have no equivalent in the West. Even their version of the shuttle was superior (it flew 100% autonomously). I don't like Musk, but he single handedly saved the Western space programs. | | |
| ▲ | bobim 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I didn't realize Buran flew, and flew autonomously. Impressive for the times. | |
| ▲ | sigmoid10 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This sense of national pride based on long past achievements will always be bewildering to me. Do you really think a country that is actively engaged in a full scale open land war and whose economy is in shambles is able to maintain (much less build) a venerable space program? Elon might have saved the American tax payer from the senate launch system jobs program, but the majority of the global space industry is and always has been in the west. Russia has been an afterthought since the collapse of the Soviet Union. And it shows in everything they have done in space since. | | |
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