| ▲ | tristanj 2 hours ago | |
Those filters for S&P 500 inclusion criteria have changed many times. They are not sacred nor set in stone. The question is, do those filters, which were designed for GAAP profitable traditional companies & discriminate against fast growing cash-flow-reinvesting startups that prioritize growth over profit, unnecessarily exclude major players in the U.S. stock market? The S&P inclusion criteria reward companies that prioritize profit over growth. SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI are all giga-caps preparing to IPO, and none of them will be eligible for S&P inclusion because of the 12-month profitability requirement. At current valuations, all are part of the top 20 largest companies in the US. These companies may be excluded from the S&P500 for potentially years, until they reach 12 months of profitability. And you are vastly overstating the effect of S&P500 fast track inclusion, the plan was to reduce it from 12 months to 6 months; which is more than enough time for the market to find a price. | ||
| ▲ | usef- a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] | |
My mistake: it was Nasdaq that is being reduced to days, not S&P. Thanks. | ||
| ▲ | ywvcbk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
> which is more than enough time for the market to find a price The price markets find would still inevitably be influence by the knowledge that the demand would increase massively in a few months. > inclusion criteria reward companies that prioritize profit over growth Or stable and sustainable growth. Whatever else SpaceX, OpenAI, Anthropic valuations are price in extremely optimistic growth. But yeah, I do see a point that including adequately priced growth stocks could be a net benefit but of course accouting for the actual valuation would turn index funds into managed ones. Thankfully its not an issue at all since there is Nasdaq 100. | ||
| ▲ | jurgenburgen an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | |
> Under current rules, these fast-growing companies would be excluded from the S&P500 for potentially years, until they reach 12 months of profitability. > And you are vastly overstating the effect of S&P500 fast tracking, the plan was to reduce it from 12 months to 6 months; which is more than enough time for the market to find a price. They might never reach 6 months of profitability, let alone 12 months. | ||