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insane_dreamer 7 hours ago

S&P wasn't fait accompli, but the NASDAQ 100 was

JumpCrisscross 7 hours ago | parent [-]

> S&P wasn't fait accompli, but the NASDAQ 100 was

Sure. Nobody was properly making this distinction in social media, including on HN. Particularly with respect to the differences in scale and purpose between the NASDAQ 100 and S&P 500.

insane_dreamer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would't be surprised if the freak-out reaction to SpaceX being on the nasdaq100 and even being considered for the s&p500 was a strong factor in S&P saying no; if so than the histrionics were worth it.

JumpCrisscross 40 minutes ago | parent [-]

> would't be surprised if the freak-out reaction to SpaceX being on the nasdaq100 and even being considered for the s&p500 was a strong factor in S&P saying no

I would. I know some of the people. And NASDAQ 100-tracking funds have seen inflows, not outflows, as a result of the flip.

S&P management wanted the flip. The econometricians said no, because they're that sort of folk. The influencers get to entertain and drive some fraction of listeners to churn, which I guess keeps the ecosystem fed through commissions and management fees.

dogwalker5000 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The fact that a fast track was even considered is controversial IMHO. People flipping out, especially if their retirement is tied up with those indices, is to be expected. No one wants to be a bag holder for billionaire insiders.

JumpCrisscross 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Every rule change is controversial. This one was less so than almost any prior one I can remember–the dual-class one in 2017 (later reversed) generated far more real press. This one was mostly an influencer thing.

loeg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're making a similar mistake treating it as fait accompli that SpaceX will tank between IPO and some future date, but that isn't a given either.

gopher_space 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's more about sidestepping the waves of market manipulation.

XorNot 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

SpaceX is not worth $1 trillion, when most of that valuation is based on xAI being worth far more then their already dominant position in the space launch business.

insane_dreamer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

sure it's not a given, but I certainly am not confident enough that it won't happen to bet my money in it, which I would automatically be doing if it was admitted to the SP500

loeg 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

It would make up less than 0.15% of the index with the limited float available at IPO. Even if it went to zero, your portfolio wouldn't notice it.