Pick-ups and drop-offs? You walked yourself home, used your bike, or took the bus. This getting driven around is most ridiculous.

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japhyr 4 hours ago | parent [-]

So many areas in the US are much less walkable and bikeable than they used to be. I say that as someone who bicycle commuted for years. When I rode my bike to school as a kid I dealt with 25-35 mph traffic. The traffic was much lighter, the vehicles were much smaller, the drivers weren't perfect but they were way less distracted, and the shoulders were in better shape.

We can try to raise our kids with values that are consistent with the ones we grew up with. But trying to give them the same conditions because "it's what we did" doesn't always match up with reality.

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trumpdong 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Is it true that pickup truck drivers often threaten to run over bikes to assert dominance or is that just one of those myths about how crazy America is?

	▲	wl 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I wear Lycra, ride a funny-looking carbon road bike, and average about 3,000 miles a year. In college, I rode a beater bike everywhere for transportation instead of owning a car. I’ve never experienced that kind of thing, though I’ve heard occasional stories. Drivers don’t pay attention and seem like they’re trying to kill you, but that feels more like recklessness than malice.
	▲	japhyr 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		It depends on your definition of "threaten", but the short answer is yes. I live in a mountainous area that's a destination for road bikers and mountain bikers. There's lots of sources of tension between cyclists and drivers. On a regular basis I see people racing past cyclists, rolling coal at cyclists (I can't believe that's even a term now), blaring horns, and a number of other behaviors that fall under "threatening". US vehicles, especially pickups, have outgrown a lot of rural roads that had their origins as footpaths and horse paths. Even with well-intentioned cyclists and drivers, it's often times a setup for conflict.
	▲	wffurr an hour ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I got honked at and told to get out of the road today, on a quiet neighborhood street I ride on every day.
	▲	masterj 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		This is true, but it varies a lot based on local culture. "Let me buzz 'em / roll coal to teach 'em a lesson" but you're not really going to see that in, say, Seattle