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vblanco 7 hours ago

Another article about how anthropic wants to ban everyone except themselves and destroy opensource and chinese AIs.

reasonableklout 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Where is this discussed in the article? I don't see any mentions of China or open source models

artninja1988 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really mentioned explicitly but:

> A meaningful slowdown or pause would require multiple well-resourced labs at or near the frontier, in multiple countries, agreeing to stop under the same conditions. It would also require that each can verify that the others have actually stopped. Due to the unique characteristics of AI systems, the detectability (a lower standard than verifiability) element of this arms control problem is much more challenging than with other technologies. Training runs are far easier to conceal than missile silos, their inputs are general-purpose, and the incentive to defect quietly is enormous, because whoever continues while others pause could inherit the lead. A credible pause also has to specify what triggers it, what lifts it, and who adjudicates.

And later:

> In the coming months, we will organize conversations where policymakers, researchers, civil society, and other AI companies can help answer some of the questions this piece raises, especially around full recursive self-improvement and how to create better options for coordination and deliberation. We’ll publish what comes out of it. The window to investigate the questions together is here, and people outside AI companies should be involved in this deliberation.

reasonableklout 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Coordinating a pause at the frontier is not the same as destroying or even harming open source/China.

It feels like both open source can flourish while the frontier is deliberately regulated?

vblanco 5 hours ago | parent [-]

they explicitly mention in the article that just frontier stopping isnt enough because then that just means others will catch up, they want to be the leaders of a global organization/cartel that bans everyone except themselves. Particularly important given anthropic attacks china and opensource every chance they get. https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...

artninja1988 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah. This is why Anthropic is way worse than openai. They don't contribute shit to open source and even lobby against it.