Fundamental flaws/oversights in the internet's design led to centralization, notably zero protections against malicious actors, bots, and botnets.

Cloudflare and co offer some of the only real solutions to that.

If you snap your fingers and Cloudflare disappears, you aren't left with a decentralized wonderland but rather the status quo where $5 of booter time can take most websites offline for the lulz, and all of your human users have to compete with infinite automated AI traffic (basically an amplification attack every time someone prompts an agent and it does a web search).

So, there's a third option where you like Cloudflare's services as a solution to flaws in the internet that led to the need for these services.

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gonzalohm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

And then when Cloudfare decides to start exploiting all the data they have and all the services they provide for their own benefit then what

	▲	jesse_dot_id 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Then I move my stuff somewhere else? I've been writing HTML since 1993. I think I've used literally hundreds of hosts at this point. I had access to an Enterprise license in my last job, which was my introduction to Cloudflare — something like 7 years ago — and I just kind of fell in love with the DX and their offerings. It's only improved since then. Like, Cloudflare Workers is actually fucking insane. It's insane how good it is for free. It has a secret vault, dude, for free — with API and CLI. It has cron jobs. You can just assign domains to sites from your DNS zones. It's got blue/green deployments built in. I don't have to SSH into anything. It's just there and it works. Now everything I do there is free, even for my contract projects, and I can't believe it's free. I actually keep expecting an enshittification phase to begin but it just doesn't ever begin. When it does, I'll bail — same as it ever was. It would take a lot, though.
	▲	hombre_fatal 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I'm responding to your non sequitur. Did you already abandon it?