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| ▲ | egypturnash 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sat it out, or were forced out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_efforts_to_restrict... | | |
| ▲ | NotMichaelBay an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | We may need a sankey. | |
| ▲ | waterTanuki 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The GOP rigs elections in their favor and it's well known, but they don't have the power to throw out an additional 87 million votes if they don't go in their favor. The logical conclusion then if despite everyone voting D then getting their votes tossed out is either violent revolution or liberation with the aid of another nuclear-armed state. | | |
| ▲ | intended 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This is a theory which is very popular, and it needs to die. In our modern democracies, we are highly dependent on our information economies to build consensus. Those economies have essentially ceased functioning as competitive markets for ideas, globally. In general, newsrooms don’t make enough money to independently cover local news, and are consolidated under political/private parties. Journalism isn’t dead, but it is definitely on life support. America though, has a further metastasized issue, in that there exists market capture. Republicans and their media apparatus have effective agenda setting power over a large enough section of the populace. The short version of it is that in the right leaning media sphere, the rules of journalism have changed. A common through line for headline stories begins with a fringe theory on the internet. This fringe theory shows up on some podcast, which then gets repeated by a guest on a channel like Fox. This in turn gets alluded to by the White House, and then it can be reported on as a position that the Executive is considering, making it fact. The GOP didn’t need to throw out votes, provided it could muddy the waters effectively enough. The research by Roberts, Faris and Benkler, is what this is based on. Reality always wins in the end, so now with the increase in oil prices, the limits of information dominance are visible, and they will need to leverage their strength in other domains to gain advantage for the upcoming elections. | |
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| ▲ | HEmanZ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So 164,339,764 made it happen? I don’t like any direction this administration has taken, but acting like it’s not the completely legitimate will of the people is BS. | | |
| ▲ | fnordpiglet 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The will of the plurality you mean? He didn’t win a majority of the votes. He is the legitimately elected office holder; but it was not the will of the people, it was the outcome of this particularly electoral process. Many American electoral processes require a run off without a majority for this reason, and it’s an intensely weak platform to claim a mandate from - not only did more people not vote for you than half the voters, if you add in the people who could vote but didn’t, it’s by far not “the will of the people”. |
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| ▲ | jimbokun 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If those who sat out were forced to vote for one of the two major party candidates, Trump’s margin may have been larger. I think liberals and progressives have a higher propensity to vote, so you can’t assume the non voters are less likely to lean Trump. | | | |
| ▲ | Rekindle8090 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There's no one to blame but the left. The worst candidate in american history and somehow they still lost? | | |
| ▲ | yoyohello13 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I choose to blame the people that actually voted for this. Fuck those people. | |
| ▲ | root_axis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Interesting how "the worst candidate in history" is not to blame. | |
| ▲ | WolfeReader 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That makes no sense whatsoever. Voting for Trump (or anyone with an R by their name) is wrong; sitting out a vote is wrong. Why save all the blame for the side that actually put up resistance, however ineptly? | | |
| ▲ | opsnooperfax 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don’t think blue team good, red team bad is a very mature take on US politics. When it comes to substantive policy, voters do not get a choice. The same wars will be fought. The same lobbies will have their way. Just because one side will make tactless, self-deifying inaugural speeches about how the sea levels will cease to rise and the Earth will start to heal, that does not make it so. I think that if these sensors were providing useful, actionable information more valuable than their maintenance cost is not well supported. | | |
| ▲ | tombert 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, no, it actually is mature enough. I hate divisive language like this, but Trump's only major concrete "policy" (if you can call it that) during his 2024 campaign was that he was going to somehow lower grocery prices by instituting tariffs, so basically "I'm going to lower prices by raising prices". That kind of idiotic quasi-doublespeak should have been a disqualifier for anyone with at least a two-digit IQ, but apparently it's not. The only scenarios that I can see for this: 1) People actually believed the idiotic notion that "other countries" pay the tariffs. This is so idiotic because even if that were true, which it's not, those costs would still be ruled into the price. "No such thing as a free lunch" is very literally the first thing I learned in high school economics. If people are that stupid then they can be blamed for their idiotic decisions to vote for a despot. 2) They didn't believe in the tariff rhetoric, and wanted to vote for Trump based on a nebulous "personality". This is stupid. If you really are voting for people because you think you'd "like to have a beer with them", then you should be blamed when bad things happen from that idiotic decision. ---- Kamala wasn't a great candidate, but I really hate this sort of "both sides"-ing people do to try and engage in apologetics for people's ridiculous decision to vote for the guy who, as far as I can tell, has literally no expertise in anything. | | |
| ▲ | kxrm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > People actually believed the idiotic notion that "other countries" pay the tariffs. Many believed this, think about how many Americans do not understand the Progressive Tax system. I believe it has been intentional for many years to keep up some of these misunderstanding of basic governance. | | |
| ▲ | tombert an hour ago | parent [-] | | I mean, I guess? I don't really feel like I needed to be taught that tariffs would raise prices. I'm not some hypergenius, it really seems pretty obvious to me. | | |
| ▲ | ArmadilloGang an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | You are engaged in a hacker news debate after 11 PM. You are not exactly a spitting image of the average American adult. | |
| ▲ | asdff 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Half the country can't read at a 6 grade level. You are in fact one of the hypergeniuses. | |
| ▲ | FireBeyond 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, but at the risk of being unoriginal, "Think about how dumb the average American is... and then realize half of the country is dumber than him." Or more practically and relevant to this? Number one Google search on Election Day? "Did Biden drop out?" Not the world's most informed electorate. |
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| ▲ | xp84 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | All the tariffs were stupid, Trump is mostly stupid and completely corrupt, but voters felt a justifiable need to punish the Democrats for a presidency where they were gaslit every day. Inflation? What inflation? And the economy is great, actually! Biden’s mind is sharp as a tack! etc. That’s before you get into culture war social issues topics, where the Democrats were miles away from the average non-blue-haired voter. And not only that, Dems ran another campaign with a tone of “Everyone who disagrees with me is an evil and/or stupid bigot” - H. Clinton’s winning strategy. I was glad to see Harris lose, as I thought losing to Trump would sufficiently humiliate all those responsible for pushing the asinine platform and unlikeable candidate on us into changing their ways. Sadly, Dems still learned absolutely nothing and changed nothing. “A perfect campaign.” |
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| ▲ | inetknght 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Why save all the blame for the side that actually put up resistance Resistance is one definition, I guess. A very loose definition. I'd call it what it was. Career sociopaths decided to put a career sociopath on the ballot instead of someone the left's citizens would actually like. | | |
| ▲ | Nasrudith 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'll let you in on a secret. The main reason why nobody is catering to you isn't because what you want goes against the money, the status quo, or whatever big bad you imagine. It is because if you don't vote then you are about as good for them as nipples on a Breast Plate. There is a reason seniors get everything that they want: it is because they always show up to vote! | |
| ▲ | dayyan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | manphone 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | He’s sitting at 30% approval while starting wars and not releasing the Epstein files. You are saying pure cope right now. |
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| ▲ | dyauspitr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They share some blame but a transsexual dog would have been a better candidate than Trump. | |
| ▲ | OutOfHere 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Both sides had their "worst" candidate, but in different ways. One of them was a convicted felon. Democrats will continue to lose while they revel in their corruption by putting forward selfish candidates that are least likely to win. | | |
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| ▲ | mx7zysuj4xew 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Unlike the stable genius who's bragging how he "aced" not one, but four! cognitive tests | | |
| ▲ | b65e8bee43c2ed0 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I am fully aware that the person I've referred to as orange retard is, in fact, retarded. what I'm saying is that the other side did everything they could to antagonize normal people and deservingly lose. they will of course double down the next time they are in power, and you will have President Hegseth sometime next decade. | | |
| ▲ | xp84 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | No lies detected. It’s mystifying that the party that only welcomes highly educated people is the one who never learns. |
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| ▲ | beej71 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Clown show antics! * Using the FCC to control the press * Arresting American citizens because of their brown skin * Talking about menstruation | | | |
| ▲ | ImPostingOnHN an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > the senile grandpa was awakened and paraded around when it was strictly necessary, but for the most part, it was lunatics running the asylum Unfortunately now we have both. > just look at this for example https://xcancel.com/USDOL/status/1795879796599111997 and try to imagine the kind of people who wrote and/or approved that message. What exactly is your problem with it? "just look at this" while pointing to a normal tweet doesn't exactly convey a point. | | |
| ▲ | ArmadilloGang 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Oh he made his point. He hates the fact that another human being would acknowledge the existence of trans people. The group mandating specific word choices is comprised of people absolutely livid that anyone has the right to choose any descriptive word they would like from “woman”, “cisgender”, “transgender”, “penis-haver”, “penisist” (my personal choice, as a cispenisist pianist myself), “menstruator”, “ballbreaker,” “cocksucker”, “vagiqueen”, “menstrually-leaning” to many, many more. We have a slew of Englishian slop we can yeet to make communication more interesting and dynamic, if not hauntingly vulgar, and darn me to heck if I’m to be judged for engaging in a lil’ bit of fun while I got me this few decades to see how things play out with these daily consciousness experiences. Get your hands off my words, I say. Because one day in the not too distant future, that consciousness will run out the clock, and it’s game over, man! Game over! | |
| ▲ | asdff 40 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Normal tweet? What dictionary is menstruators found in? |
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