Micromanagement wasn't the message I took from that. Rather the level of human involvement required which (it seems like) the two of you more or less agree on.

The meaning I took was how far it's possible to travel from the shore - ie the scope of the state space. The mathematics we're exposed to is all quite shallow compared to what will (presumably) be possible between digital formalization and massive ML models. But the latter probably can't ever be understood by regular biological humans.