There is zero "secret sauce" in max for live.

Ableton and Max are totally separate codebases, and "Max for Live" is just a ~VST interface between them.

I do agree that "scriptable Ableton" would be far better for production and sound design than Max, because they make all the hard parts easy: MIDI, sequencing, mixing, etc.

In Max, you have to build everything from scratch, every time.

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peteforde 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I think we're talking past each other.

I don't own Max for Live. If I want to use it, I either need to upgrade to Ableton Suite for $500 or I need to upgrade to Standard and buy Max for Live separately (also $500).

There's a huge ecosystem of tools that are implemented as Max for Live packages which I cannot access because I haven't paid the toll.

I see that even this new Extensions SDK is only available to people who have paid for the full Suite edition.

I'd describe that as a market opportunity.

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SoleilAbsolu 5 hours ago | parent [-]

FWIW you should be "able to" get 2ndhand Ableton Suite licenses for significantly less...IIRC I paid ~$350 a few years ago.

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peteforde 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Please say more

	▲	0x1ceb00da 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah. How does ableton handle the transfer? Do you mail them the transfer request, they generate a new key and mail it to the new owner?