I think 10-20% chance is wildly generous. What specific mechanism makes you think there's a 10% chance that current LLMs are conscious?

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sebzim4500 9 days ago | parent [-]

Not GP but given we have no idea what conciousness is it seems foolhardy to go too low or too high for any of those numbers

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overgard 9 days ago | parent [-]

I think the problem with this argument is that it's too inclusive. Is the bacteria that's adapted to an antibiotic conscious? It's showing intelligence right? I think if you're going to say something is potentially conscious, for me to take the argument seriously at least, there needs to be some plausible mechanism. I just don't see one for LLMs.

	▲	throwawayk7h 9 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		maybe the bacteria are conscious. How sure are we that they're not? The only strong argument I have against it is the anthropic principle -- there are billions of times more bacteria than humans, so it's overwhelmingly unlikely that I'd be a human rather than a bacteria. Not a very good argument of course.
	▲	sebzim4500 9 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yeah I get what you are saying but I don't see much of a plausible mechanism for humans either and yet clearly there is one.