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cyanydeez 10 days ago

id be amazed any american business will aend data to china

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linkregister 10 days ago | parent | next [-]

HuggingFace offers DeepSeek as one of its models— it's pretty simple to spin up instances under your control.

I'm not sure about OpenRouter but I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a US-based provider of DeepSeek.

For reference, Cursor has their first own light fork of Kimi that they use as their baseline coding and review model.

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dghlsakjg 10 days ago | parent [-]

The majority of Deepseek providers on OpenRouter for v4 pro are in the US. Especially interesting is that they are in the same ballpark for pricing.

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eikenberry 10 days ago | parent [-]

They are in the same ballpark for deepseek-v4-flash, but deepseek-v4-pro from deepseek is still around 1/2 of the alternatives.

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dghlsakjg 10 days ago | parent [-]

I'm pretty sure that Deepseek said that pricing was promotional. Be curious to see if it lasts.

V3 pricing from them was right in line with what the commodity providers are charging.

	▲	eikenberry 9 days ago \| parent [-]
		They announced a few weeks back that the promotional pricing was permanent.

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alpinisme 10 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“Any” is a very high bar Unless laws prevent it, I don’t see why a substantial minority wouldn’t buy services from where they can get them at a similar quality and much lower price.

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dkersten 10 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Together.ai provide many open weights models and as far as I’m are their servers are US based (the company certainly is)

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lowbloodsugar 10 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Any IT cost center will send to the lowest bidder. This isn’t intellectual property: it’s annoying shit that is an unwelcome cost of doing business. China might copy our tedious scripts? Will they make a product out of it? Can I buy it and fire my IT staff? Great!

Not everyone using AI is using it to code core value IP.