| ▲ | bbatha 2 hours ago |
| For all the potshots about AI, this update is huge even if you take away the AI features. They basically added lightroom to this release. There's some polish before you'd want to change your subscription, but its really tempting. It may be the best photo management/editor on linux. Yes, I know about darktable and rawtherapee and I stand by what I said. They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the beta seem to be enough to undercut a lot of basic uses of after effects out. The later two features are in the free release as well! |
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| ▲ | BuildTheRobots 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| > ...before you'd want to change your subscription... For anyone not in the know, Resolve has an exceptionally capable and feature rich free version. A lot of the AI features (and >4k editing) are locked to the Studio licence which is a one-time payment, but works simultaneously on two computers (including different OS's) and allows upgrades across major versions. I spent less than $300 on it a decade ago and my licence works fine on new v21 released this week. My least-regretted software purchase in 3 decades. |
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| ▲ | cjonas 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I made the switch from premier to resolve a few years ago and it feels like such a breath of fresh air. Being able to do the same with Lightroom would be amazing so can't wait to check this out. I've been using the free version and honestly never needed the pro features but I think I'll make the one time purchase today just to support a non-subscription based product of this caliber |
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| ▲ | thewebguyd an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I run a photography biz on the side, and this is huge tbh. I already used Davinci to make a custom LUT, blended it with the Adobe camera standard profile to use in lightroom as a base for all my edits as Davinci's color tools are much better, and doing it this way just lets you get tones that you couldn't other wise get with Lighroom/ACR alone. This basically removes the need to have lightroom in there as a finishing step. The only downside is by now I've got a really solid ImagenAI profile based on the 30k photos I've fed it over time, and that obviously relies on a lightroom catalog, and is also capable of applying my LUT since I've made it a slider in LR. I hate adobe, but I'm not sure I could go back to not using Imagen as now I can turn around a full wedding gallery in about 2 days. |
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| ▲ | sbarre an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I haven't had a chance to look at the non-beta version but in the 21 Beta, the Photo page didn't support Lumix or Olympus raw formats, and I own two cameras: a Lumix and an Olympus. :-( I assumed they would add them later, I hope I'm right! edit: nope, still only supports Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Sony and iPhone ProRAW. |
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| ▲ | altairprime an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is the Lightroom stuff the same as was discussed on HN a couple months ago? If so, then, see also 296 comments about the new photo mode: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47760529 |
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| ▲ | storus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you run batch processing with the same settings over a large sequence of images like in Lightroom as well? And/or make slight changes to some parameters at certain points of time like correcting light intensity during sunsets the transitions smooths when your hardware made a step change when capturing it? |
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| ▲ | jackofalltrades 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I was not aware that we could edit photos in DaVinci Resolve in Linux. Thank you for this info, I'll certainly give it a try! |
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| ▲ | dofm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Output size is limited to 4K in the free version, I think. Which is not nothing (8MP or something, good for a reasonably large print) but it might make you question how much editing belongs inside Resolve. | |
| ▲ | Hobadee 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You couldn't until this release. :-P |
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| ▲ | gglanzani an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Laat time I checked, deleting an image on DaVinci didn’t delete on disk. That’s something I’m really missing |
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| ▲ | omnimus 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It might be best editor on linux but running it on linux is not easy. You basically need pick correct hardware pick right distro. It might be pretty easy on the oficial rocky linux but on other distros good luck. Also no AMD support. I am pretty experienced linux user and i would have to buy new NVIDIA card and pray things work out. Sadly i found out it will be much cheaper to buy refurb mac mini. So now i have dedicated machine for editing video. |
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| ▲ | omnimus 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I suspect main reason resolve supports linux is render farms with purposefully bought hw. |
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| ▲ | well_ackshually 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also, nobody would have complained about "content aware face fill", "AI" image edition tools have been standard for ten years in Photoshop |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I remember CS2 making big news with the "healing brush", that's like 20 years ago or something like that. | | |
| ▲ | dofm an hour ago | parent [-] | | That wasn’t an AI tool at all, though. Neither is pre-2023 content-aware fill, AFAIK. They are both PatchMatch (well the healing brush certainly is), which is a heroic bit of code. Entirely deterministic statistical algorithm. Not AI by really any definition (including back then) | | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | In my mind, it's as much "AI" as "AI Slate ID" introduced in this release, which I guess was kind of the point of what GP said. | |
| ▲ | nandomrumber an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Probably not you, but on this very forum there are plenty who will argue that LLMs / AI are entirely deterministic and that given enough time, a chisel, and sufficient clay tablets, any AI output can be calculated by hand. I don’t know enough about anything to determine which opinion is correct. Is AI output not just matrix multiplication and a random seed? | | |
| ▲ | dofm an hour ago | parent [-] | | I don't disagree necessarily on the fundamentals; I am slowly catching up on what LLMs do and don't do but that sounds right to me. But what I would observe is that the healing brush does not have a random seed. It will always do the same thing if applied at the same pixel. (I am actually less sure if content-aware fill randomises; I always got the impression it did not) This makes it both incredibly powerful and occasionally frustrating. Because on the one hand, you can learn to apply your judgement to precisely control what it will do, and change the radius or position if you learn it is likely to fail, which becomes instinctive. I absolutely love using it to fix scratches in film scans; it's a quick, precise, controllable tool that can be used in a way that is amazingly convincing, and it ends up quite a "zen gardening" thing as a result. It'll sell you on the cheapest wacom pen once you know how efficient it can be. On the other hand there are situations where it simply cannot work the way you want because it will always find a pattern you don't want it to. (You can sometimes use the clone brush tool first, to manually break up the pattern that patchmatch will find) | | |
| ▲ | embedding-shape 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > But what I would observe is that the healing brush does not have a random seed. It will always do the same thing if applied at the same pixel. Given a model architecture that supports it, greedy decoding + the same inputs + prompts, that's true for most LLMs today too, I don't think people consider them less/more AI because of that. |
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| ▲ | dheera an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is there any RAW processing software for Linux that works for DJI drone photos? I have a bunch of photos from a Mini 3 Pro and Mini 4 Pro -- 4 years' worth -- that I haven't published because I don't have a way to process them. No tools on Linux (RawTherapee, Darktable, RapidRAW) render their colors correctly no matter how you mess with the sliders, and all of the Github issue pages are dismissive of the problem. There is something fundamentally wrong about how Linux RAW libraries are reading DJI photos. Lightroom on a Mac tested on another computer renders them all correctly, but I don't own a Mac nor Lightroom. |
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| ▲ | Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >They also added a ton of motion graphics stuff which from the beta seem to be enough to undercut a lot of basic uses of after effects out. I moved my team to Resolve about 2.5 years ago and I can say with absolute confidence Fusion > AE. Resolve Studio is all you need, period. Lightroom is clearly better right now than their Photo editor but like all their other offerings (ehhh except fairlight lol still mediocre), it's only a matter of time |
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| ▲ | httpsterio an hour ago | parent [-] | | This has not been my experience. I have frequent crashes with Fusion that seem to be related to specific nodes. Checking my computers usage it doesn't seem like I'm running out of juice either. When it works, it's really nice and I'm sold on the node based workflows, but it's not all entirely roses. Resolve itself is excellent, Fairlight works just Ok and is still heaps better than Audition ever was. But Fusion I feel like hasn't seen enough love in the past few years. The whole Reactor setup for installing Fuses feels really broken and for the free users they disabled those entirely in version 19.1. |
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| ▲ | echelon 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > For all the potshots about AI, Most video is going to be AI in the near future. They see the writing on the wall. Their camera business line is going to sharply decline. |
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| ▲ | swatcoder 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Most video is going to be AI in the near future That's like saying all fine art would be photography, all film would be CGI, or all music would be synthesized electronica. That's not how aesthetics seem to work. Artists will make more or less good use of generative AI in their work, and it will probably seep into most media in some way or another, effecting them, but arts mostly don't get replaced and AI doesn't really offer an exception to that history. | | |
| ▲ | criddell an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > That's like saying all fine art would be photography Or is it like saying most portraits will be photographs rather than paintings? There are still a lot of portraits painted (maybe even as many as the pre-camera days), but by raw numbers most portraits are created by photographers. | |
| ▲ | darkwater an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | There will also be a longer or shorter period of time in which such technology will be abused by artists (because it's new) and at some point it will stabilize. |
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| ▲ | echoangle 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Aren’t the cameras they are making aimed at professional productions? Those are probably going to replaced last, the first thing will be (or are) TikTok clips shot on smartphones. I don’t think they’ll see a decline in cinema camera sales due to AI soon. | | |
| ▲ | Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Yeah they don't make a single consumer grade product. Prosumer at its lowest, and even then they're way too technical for the uninitiated. No one is picking up a BMPCC and just shooting/posting online. |
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| ▲ | AngryData an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I doubt it because I wouldn't waste my time watching it and I can't imagine all that many people today that don't already watch AI videos are going to suddenly change their mind and decide they like AI produced Hallmark movies. | |
| ▲ | CyberDildonics 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "AI makes real world obsolete." I think that's enough hacker news for today. | |
| ▲ | 13hunteo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why do you believe this? Are you expecting all media to become fully AI - sports, TV, movies, youtube? | | |
| ▲ | add-sub-mul-div 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They've been spamming slop project submissions the last few months. But then again, who isn't? |
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| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No way. Even the frontier models running on insanely powerful hardware could only generate 15 second clips in low resolutions. And yeah, I saw some demos from Seedance 2.0, and they were awful. It's ridiculous how much people on Xitter were like "You can't even tell it's AI!" and I was like "It's trivial to tell it's AI" and could easily pick out all the markers. An individual screenshot could look good, but every time the camera angle changed, there would be a glaring inconsistency. You people are either blind, delusional, or outright insane. AI might be used for a quick clip, or used to enhance something recorded by a camera, but "most video" is definitely wrong. | |
| ▲ | VladVladikoff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | God I hope not. That’s depressing. | |
| ▲ | Geezus_42 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Even more reason to check out. | |
| ▲ | Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So live A/V is just dead now? Movies are dead? I really don't get where this take is coming from. | |
| ▲ | BoredPositron 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are only looking at your own consumption at the moment. There are a lot of problems that still need to be fixed especially with rope artifacting. The 4k most models taunt isn't equivalent to a real 4k image or video as well at the moment you need a quality factor of two to get the equivalent result of a shot image or video. Resolution does not indicate quality. |
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