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jvanderbot 9 hours ago

Right - the future of LLMs is like ol' windows XP+Dell. Commercialized "things" you run locally offline, co-designed with hardware, with a known productivity suite, and large businesses building the next generation thing and suite with 18mo release cycles (ish).

treis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't see it. Leasing equipment and paying per seat license fees makes a lot of accounting and cash flow sense. Maybe when it gets to the point where you can run SOTA LLMs on consumer hardware. But that seems a solid decade and probably much more away.

Even then it makes more sense to rent the bigger GPU and get your answer faster.

nonethewiser 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

XP? I can see the argument for enterprise support but in that case the latest windows OS is going to be virtually free and I dont know if MS and Dell etc. would even support an XP machine. Might even be required for hardware. If no enterprise support wouldnt Linux make a lot more sense?

I get that if it's offline the security downside of XP doesnt matter, and I assume XP is free, but being free doesnt really seem that valuable compared to alternatives (free linux and virtually free OS if buying wholesale).

jvanderbot 9 hours ago | parent [-]

"Windows XP+Dell" should have been in quotes. It's similar to the way enterprise productivity software was developed, packaged co-designed with hardware, and sold on an 18mo upgrade cycle assumption. It's not literally windows xp.

nonethewiser 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh gotcha. Yeah that's an interesting idea.

gedy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's waayyyy too much money betting on that not happening, to the point I feel there'll be regulations popping up for "safety reasons" etc to ensure the big players control this.

thewebguyd 3 hours ago | parent [-]

3/4 of Microsoft's BUILD conference the past two days were about local AI, foundry local and Windows ML along with a big section in the keynote about running local workloads on their new hardware with Nvidia. Say what you want about Microsoft's reputation, but they are a "big player" and seem to be moving in the direction of local AI first.

gedy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I would love this to happen of course, just paranoid it won't.