Yeah, I work at a CSU and the Teacher's union is against AI. However, the layoffs happened at some of the CSU's where enrollment numbers are drastically down. I think Sonoma State is having a really bad time getting students and CSU Dominguez Hills has always had issues with attracting students compared to nearby CSU Long Beach. I'd imagine at some point these campuses may end up on the chopping block.

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snapetom 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I briefly attended a CSU in the 90's and this was well discussed even back then with predicted population declines. There's just too many CSUs. You'll always need the ones like Stanislaus and Bakersfield to serve their communities and it turns out, they're the ones doing ok. However, there's too many in LA and SF, and the situation is not helped by housing costs in those cities. SFSU itself has had -30% enrollment in the past 10 years.

The CSU system is going to have to to make tough consolidation decisions soon because you can't have declining urban and suburban campuses at the same time.

	▲	jimbokun 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe they can open a campus in Texas where all their residents are moving to.

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wyager 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Yeah, I work at a CSU and the Teacher's union is against AI.

Is this a political coalition thing or is there a real teacher-related reason they don't like it?

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b40d-48b2-979e 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can one really not imagine a case where the cheating machine being used by students is a bad thing for teachers? Does everything have to be "politically motivated"?

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jwlake an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Its also a teaching machine. There are several classes I had in college I would have killed for ChatGPT to cut through the terrible instruction.

	▲	ares623 40 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		hmm the classic trolley problem

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AnimalMuppet 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are more aspects than "cheating machine" that could be bad for a college. It could be bad for students, and teachers may realize that.

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wyager an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes the a priori most likely reason for the TU to be "against AI" is political. If you know much about TUs this is pretty obvious

	▲	throw4847285 an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		That is a grotesque misuse of the phrase "a priori." What you mean is, "It's obvious to me." Ok, good for you.
	▲	mold_aid 6 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		AFT is in fact pro-AI

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pesus 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are tons of reasons AI is actively making the school system worse (amongst many other aspects of society). Immediately jumping to "political coalition thing" seems strange.

	▲	shard972 an hour ago \| parent [-]
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ralph84 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unions are always against whatever management wants. Then it becomes a bargaining chip for what the union wants. That's how collective bargaining works.

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ashdksnndck an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think unions in industries where their workers are at risk of eventually getting replaced by AI are pretty universally against it, because protecting the jobs of members is the whole purpose of a union. It’s like how the teamsters are against self-driving cars.

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p1necone 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Dismissing opinions you don't like by arbitrarily classifying them as "political" vs "not political" is lazy and dishonest.

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warkdarrior 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> the Teacher's union is against AI

Well, of course. Horse buggy manufacturers and drivers were dead set against automobiles.