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skybrian 4 hours ago

> Don’t look for a section on permissions or consent in that document, by the way. There isn’t one. And nothing about nerd lawyer stuff like “opt out of sale” or “objections to processing” in there, either. The Big Tech companies want a two-track system, where other companies’ ad features are required to do all the privacy regulation hassles, but the browser’s own built-in tracking feature is something that people have to find the right setting for and turn off.

This language to make consent popups sound good is suspicious. Not being interrupted while you're browsing is good. A browser setting that people can turn off once, for all participating websites, is good.

customguy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don't need cookie banners unless you want to track the user before they opted in on their own (maybe in the "website settings"). That's why countless websites have none.

The browser would only have to ask once, and then it would still just be "one browser setting", except you'd be notified it exists, as soon as it exits. So what's the point here, other than trotting out the same old stuff nut about cookie banners?

On update, "this is the thing, and that thing is enabled by default, is that okay? Otherwise, click no, then it gets turned off. If you change your mind later, it's under settings -> thing"

It's not complicated, and blaming laws that enforce human rights to avoid the most basic craftsmanship is suspicious.

SpicyLemonZest 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Is it the case that "countless websites have none"? Some websites, especially small ones operated outside of the EU, simply don't care about their obligations under European law. But in my experience it's extremely rare for European websites not to feature a cookie banner. It's not like it's just corporations: the official websites of the European Commission (https://commission.europa.eu/), the presidency of France (https://www.elysee.fr/), the chancellorship of Germany (https://www.bundeskanzler.de/bk-de/), etc. all have one.

rho138 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s what the Do Not Track signal was for, but tech bros still don’t get consent sooooooooo…