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▲ triMichael 5 hours ago

While I haven't had this issue with Gmail, I recently got a new computer and the first two weeks for full of moments like this. It's shocking to me how much we've let popups go rampant on everything. Perhaps the worst offender is Windows update, as it won't even let you use your own computer without clicking through 10 screens refusing all sorts of products they are trying to push on you.

▲coldpie 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I know everyone's tired of hearing this, but this doesn't happen on Linux. I know I know, it's different and a little janky here and there and maybe you have to find a replacement for one or two pieces of software. But like, you don't actually have to put up with this. There is a better way.

▲kraquepype 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I recently built 2 mini PCs for my kids to play games on, and went with Bazzite.

It was really surprising how put together it all is. The steam integration is seamless and it can play a ton of stuff even on an older NUC w/out a GPU.

It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows.

▲wholinator2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's only getting easier and friendlier comparatively. Recently i bought a new computer and installing an external drive and putting kde linux on it was easier than fighting my way through the windows telemetry gauntlet, the setting, and all the bloat. Modern windows disgusts me continuously in new ways

▲sotix 2 hours ago | parent [-]

How are you finding KDE Linux's performance? I'm really excited for its progress!

▲slipknotfan 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

I prefer arch btw

▲ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It was the first time I can say that installing a linux OS was easier and friendlier than Windows.

It's been that way for about 20 years. Where have you been?

▲kraquepype 2 hours ago | parent [-]

20 years ago I was running linux as a desktop for fun.

It certainly was not as easy to setup as Windows.

▲andrekandre 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

using linux feels like macos back in the mid-2000s and windows (in a good way) in the early 2000s, like its some kind "operating system" for you to do things instead of being advertised to...

its such a breath of fresh air

▲supertroop 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doesn’t happen on mac either, right?

▲justaregulanerd 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Coming from 10 years of Linux to macOS, Apple deserves praise for this point too.

I don't use Apple Intelligence, Safari, or Siri on my Mac, and I'm extremely happy to report that Apple does not nag me to use these features at all. THANK YOU APPLE.

Windows would open Edge for random reasons instead of my preferred browser to nudge me to use it, Cortana was a constant reminder in W10 because it was part of Windows Search, and of course, we all know how they push Copilot.

Apple isn't perfect (iCloud is fine on macOS, but iOS is quite misleading and often defaults to on even if you really don't want it), but overall my Mac respects my wishes as a user and it makes me look forward to using my computer as a tool.

▲ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To be fair, Apple does do a one-time sales pitch during OS setup, but if you say NO, it remembers you mean NO.

macOS does have its own user-hostile issues, but they are more in the form of making things like running downloaded software and modifying your system irritatingly difficult, and not Windows's pathetic and desperate attempts to cajole you into using their features.

▲jasonfarnon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can't get my ipad to shut up about iCloud storage. At least with windows I know how to turn that stuff off (worse case registry fix). I have no idea how to hack Apple's stuff.

▲antonkochubey 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It still does a tiny bit (iCloud Drive is quite pushy) but to uncomparably smaller extent vs Windows

▲sethops1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ehh Apple has been self promoting their own services directly in the OS for a while now, including popups via notifications.

▲Our_Benefactors 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲happymellon 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As someone who uses more than one monitor, my Mac has far more issues than my Linux boxes.

▲dreamcompiler 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same here. What frustrates me is that Apple pretty much invented seamless multiple monitor integration back in the early 90s, but the Apple of today has either forgotten how to do it or they just don't care.

▲smohare 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Huh, I’ve never once had a problem with multiple monitors and macs over the last 15 years. But at most I’m running two monitors.

▲ryandrake an hour ago | parent [-]

I have a iMac with two external monitors, and during boot it does this crazy dance where one monitor goes on, then off, then two monitors go on, and so on for a few rounds until shit settles and all three are on.

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▲jklinger410 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Skill issue

▲larrik 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

On the other hand, if you swap "Linux" and "Windows" in your complaint, you get my experience.

Windows is a hassle to get working for advanced use cases, and then every quarter they nuke my settings via windows update.

I just can't do it. I managed to go about 6 months last year on Windows for the first time since ~2010, but nope. Not worth it.

▲everforward 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This mirrors my experience.

Windows gives you nice sliders for things, which they will happily break on a whim. Linux forces you to memorize a Lovecraftian string of characters to do something, but it will generally stick for a long time.

I use both, with differing ideologies. My Linux is heavily customized with keybinds and semi-niche software that enables my workflows because I know it will stick. On my Windows machines, I've accepted that Microsoft owns that machine and I have to adapt my workflow to fit their sensibilities.

▲szundi 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Trick is to use the newest distro release with previous cycle hardware

▲ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Given that Windows still doesn't even support multiple monitors in any meaningful way, I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

▲bossyTeacher 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's hilarious seeing people complain about Microsoft when a free alternative exists. Humans are really curious creatures.

▲elictronic 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Up until very recently gaming is the only thing keeping my l and millions of others main pc from being Linux or Mac. I dual booted in the past but was annoyed. With all the work steam has put in I’m personally about 6 months out from just dumping Microsoft on all my personal products.

It’s impressive they have dropped the ball so hard that it’s causing a complete rethink for so many users like myself. Bullet >> golden goose.

▲chuckadams 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I caught myself just recently saying that I only keep my Linux box around to play games. Steam is more painless on Linux now than on Windows.

▲slipknotfan 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

because you have enough ram for steam because you don't have copilot?

▲bossyTeacher 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I also stuck with them for a long time because of Windows until Proton became good enough for most games.

▲gaiagraphia 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People will passionately tell each other to vote for [$moralParty], then willingly prop up companies which go against everything they stand for the very next day. Curious indeed.

▲PyWoody 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

  Does Microsoft understand consent?
  
  [ ] Yes
  [ ] Ask again later
▲1e1a 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Apple does this as well with MacOS update notifications

  Upgrade to MacOS Tahoe?
  
  [ ] Yes
  [ ] Remind me later
▲flobosg 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> switch to the Sequoia public beta channel!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47198977#47202707

▲shye 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Not a real solution if you’re averse to using pre-release software like macOS 26.

Recent betas also seem to break some small things, not sure if due to change in code itself or a faulty migration.

▲bee_rider 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s less surprising with Windows.

Google really was competent in the 2005-2020 era (probably further on the left, that’s just as far as I remember).

I don’t think Microsoft has seriously disappointed anybody paying attention since 2012 or so.

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