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alyandon 2 hours ago

I empathize but every time I try a Wayland based desktop I always end up encountering weird bugs and corner cases with basic usability that drive me back to X11.

I'll be sad if that is still the case when 6.8 rolls around as then I'll be hunting for another DE.

MegaDeKay an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> but every time I try a Wayland based desktop I always end up encountering weird bugs and corner cases with basic usability that drive me back to X11.

The risk in that in this age of AI-assisted bughunting, X11 security vulnerabilities are more numerous and as nasty as they've ever been. And that says a lot.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/MTU1NzA

https://www.phoronix.com/news/X.Org-9-Vulnerabilities-AI

alyandon an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm not denying that X11 has known security issues. However, I don't tend to run untrusted random gui applications on my system so that factors into the risks I'm willing to accept.

moritzruth an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When was the last time you tried? What compositor?

alyandon an hour ago | parent [-]

I stick with LTS releases so last honest attempt would have been on a Kubuntu 24.04 LTS system.

What is a compositor - thing that actually draws window content on the screen? Whatever KDE provides?

Edit: To be fair to KDE/Wayland, the Wayland Kubuntu 24.04 experience was vastly improved over Kubuntu 22.04.

MegaDeKay 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

They've made major strides in the last two years. Give the next LTS a shot and I think you'll agree.

Zardoz84 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Just works out of the box without problems in Debian 13.

The only issue that I noticed it's with screen scaling doing weird things with OpenOffice.

bitwize an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, there's SonicDE, but like many such projects it's probably maintained by reactionaries which introduces its own suite of issues around security, code quality, and "will this be maintained in a year, 5 years?"

exe34 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thank goodness I never jumped back on the KDE bandwagon once KDE4 stopped sucking donkey balls. I just went with xmonad and the few apps I actually use.