These companies are surely already onboarded…? They claim like 10k verified and high severity CVEs. Would you have preferred they just rolled it out like another opus update? You wouldn’t be insinuating in that situation that they were careless and reckless? They risk missing a boatload of revenue if openAI front runs them for a public launch. In what world is this some sort of scam??

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jb_briant 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Where did I use the word scam?

Marketing move doesn't mean scam. It describe the ability to sell people over a narrative and surpassing your competitor in market share. And that's exactly what is happening.

My post is a "tribute" to the efficiency of Anthropic's communication. I never complained about anything, nor calling it a scam, nor saying they should have released mythos to the public instead of rolling it out to a selected cohort.

You tried to expand my words to make me say something I didn't, because my post wasn't giving you a clear conclusion of my opinion regarding their private release.

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aspenmartin 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok you’re totally right, I read this as a cynical “this is all marketing” post ==> a scammy connotation. Without that read, your points are fairly valid, but are you still implying this is all a pure marketing tactic? If so I would still argue against that as a necessity but surely marketing could be heavily involved. But still: this could easily be a footgun. OpenAI will easily release the same model and now that Anthropic has taken the initiative to do a slower more contained rollout they wouldn’t need to do any of that. So from a business perspective I would still argue this whole glasswing initiative would make their sales and marketing department pretty nervous. I mean in a second-order branding sense sure this plays into the “we are ethical” ethos but it hardly seems worth the risk

	▲	jb_briant 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I don't have enough elements to conclude if the world would collapse if Mythos was released publicly without Glasswing. Nor publicly or in my internal reasoning. I rarely conclude without proof or very intense and clear intuition. From a strategic PoV it makes sense to check if their model is dangerous, I wouldn't want to have my brand name associated with "NK hacker team find zero day in all linux servers of the web and ..."