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Fire-Dragon-DoL 3 hours ago

In Italy there is a very aggressive law against money laundering: if you withdraw more than 1k cash, it triggers a call to the police. I know it's the same if you do it over multiple days.

I think it has been relaxed a little bit later on, but in Italy everybody does the "I'll charge you X less without VAT" (which is 23% in Italy, I should point out), so this is also fighting that.

wmf an hour ago | parent | next [-]

In other words, the Italian police are flooded with more reports than they could possibly investigate.

rectang 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

A great opportunity for selective enforcement!

wmf 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

Also parallel construction. "We caught him due to reports from his bank." (That's not how they caught him but those reports did exist.)

Gigachad 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That wouldn't help in the situations described in the article. For example where individuals buy drugs with small amounts of cash, then that cash is used to buy things like luxury watches and iphones, then those items are taken overseas and sold.

Seemingly the only effective way to solve this would be to ban purchasing highly resellable items with cash and requiring that cash to be deposited in to the system first.

BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does that mean it's illegal, or that they'll just come knocking to investigate?

I wonder if the "it's my money, I can withdraw it if I want" argument is good enough to send them on their way? (in addition to $1,000 being such a small amount as to be less-than-trivial when it comes to the overall problem of money laundering).

ExpertAdvisor01 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the limit is 10k and withdrawals over 1k get bundled. If you hit the limit you get reported to the Unità di Informazione Finanziaria (Financial intelligence unit) and what they do is under their discretion.

iririririr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

withdrew 2-4k rent for a few months in 23 and never saw any cops.

HDBaseT 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

You mean they implemented laws under the guise of "money laundering".

They just want to track what you spend your money on, that's step one. Step two is to restrict what you can spend your money on, although this is a partial side effect of part 1.