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Legend2440 an hour ago

Full transcripts are unfortunately not available for any of those cases, but from what I've found it provided general information about e.g. how to load and operate a firearm or how past mass shootings have been received in the media.

The way I see it, providing general information is not a crime. They're basically saying: "Oh no! My repository of all human knowledge contains all human knowledge! It must be defective!"

DrewADesign an hour ago | parent | next [-]

So someone could go and teach a class on how to build pipe bombs, refine ricin, shake-and-bake meth, 3D print guns, and all sorts of other things like that, and when the ATF looked into it, they’d just be like “well technically this is all out there on the Internet, in library books, etc. Guess it’s ok!”

The law doesn’t work like that.

Legend2440 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The Anarchist Cookbook is fully legal to possess and distribute in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchist_Cookbook

So yes. It is generally legal to provide information about making drugs, bombs, or guns.

skinfaxi 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The law bans things, things aren't illegal by default. What laws does a class about 3d printing guns violate?

andoando 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Im pretty sure thats all legal

plagiarist 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There should be some SCOTUS case where this limitation on the First Amendment is defined if the law doesn't work like that.

I mean, back when Constitutional law meant anything to the government, of course. Nowadays who knows.

CamperBob2 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. Yes, it does work like that. Exactly like that.

calmworm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If a human was found to be specifically putting these how-tos together for someone they might be liable.

Edit: why vote this down? It’s part of a discussion. This isn’t Reddit.

ericfr11 an hour ago | parent [-]

Not different than YouTube or Reddit

calmworm an hour ago | parent [-]

Agreed… and those people might also be liable.

elictronic an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When the repository has large arrows pointing to kill your {var} with customized pamphlets outlining the steps and highlighting mistakes you specifically might make based on your post history I’m betting a judge or jury might consider you an accomplice at that point.

We’re already seeing section 230 protections being defeated in court for targeted feeds, now add itemized instructions on committing felony’s at scale personalized. Hahahahaha. Hope they IPO quickly.

beeblebok 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are already published examples where there was very specific info and guidance provided.

notahacker 12 minutes ago | parent [-]

Beyond the info and guidance, there's also the classic sycophantic encouragement. Humans are allowed to publish the Anarchist's Cookbook, but they tend to get into trouble when it becomes "based on your manifesto, I would suggest the following targets". Of course, AI isn't human, and treating a software program like a human probably isn't good law, but OpenAI are very keen to suggest it's legally equivalent to a human when it suits them...

jddj a few seconds ago | parent [-]

> OpenAI are very keen to suggest it's legally equivalent to a human when it suits them

When is/was that?

(Not rhetorical)

SV_BubbleTime an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> Full transcripts are unfortunately not available for any of those cases,

And they never would be without the lawsuits, so, I don’t feel bad for OpenAI. All of big tech needs a kick in the ass on transparency.

beering 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don’t think the families are eager for the HN peanut gallery to pick apart what their loved ones said.